https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153534

--- Comment #25 from Eyal Rozenberg <[email protected]> ---
(In reply to David from comment #16)
> (In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #15)
> > Then you're assuming the style will do something it does not, because
> > specifying "Right page" will not affect the page numbering; nor will it
> > insert an extra page before your section begins (nor at section start).
> 
> I can configure a heading paragraph style at the beginning of a chapter (and
> yes, that chapter may be within a document "section") to insert a page break
> with a particular page style before the heading. If I tell it to insert a
> page with the Right page style, then I can set that page style to not
> include a header. I can also set the Right page style to use my normal page
> style as the next page, which does have headings on it. Please provide a
> document template that demonstrates a better way to do this so that we all
> may learn.

That does not contradict what I said in the sentence you quoted. I was, and am,
saying it is either difficult or impossible to guarantee that "Left Page" pages
will be only-odd, or only-even, in the order of pages in a document, or will
have only-odd, or only-even, page numbers. And same goes for "Right Page" of
course.

> If I tell it to insert a page with the Right page style, then I can set that 
> page style to not include a header.

I. Don't you mean "First Page"? 

II. I think that's kind of broken. The header itself is not part of the style,
after all. What needs to happen is for us to be able to indicate that the
sequence of pages, w.r.t. the page style, is restarting - and for that to mean
we get the first page header (or lack of header) again. I'm pretty sure MS Word
has this for section breaks which are also page breaks.

(In reply to David from comment #22)
> (In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #20)
> 
> > Well, I'm a power user in the sense that I've used LO for nearly 10 years
> > and steadily for 8; I do a lot of QA work; I support other users both with
> > LO and MSO (especially Writer); and I use LO to author both short and long,
> > simple and complex documents, using styles and little direct formatting.
> > 
> > But, indeed, I have so far not found use for page styles. Maybe it's just a
> > fluke;
> 
> If there is no use for page styles, please supply an alternative to the
> scenario given in comment 16.

I. Answered your comment 16. But I'll also say that you describe a clever use
of page (sequence) styles that I haven't considered before, so I definitely
learned something today.

II. I misspoke. I meant use for page styles other than default one, with
document-specific changes I make to that style.


> I use the Right Page style extensively to
> begin a chapter break, as defined by a heading style, to only begin on the
> right page.

But you can't be certain that it's a "Right Page"!

> I use the First Page style as a title page. ... The whole
> point is to have a unrelated style on the first page,

That's not the whole point. The title page style is not unrelated to the main
body page style (e.g. : same dimensions). Also, a title page is very often not
the first page. Still, if we had Page Style inheritance or Composition, this
would be acceptable, though still somewhat confusing.

I wonder if it wouldn't help if a style would show it's "next", e.g.

    Default Page Style ↩
    First Page → Default Page Style 
    Left Page → Right Page
    Right Page → Left Page 

I mean, not that this would make all of these styles relevant, but perhaps it
would, paradoxically, be less confusing w.r.t. to the page style cascading
dynamics.


> Works fine for me. 

No, it doesn't: If you change your document body's Page Style, you have to make
changes to your First Page style. Again, we need inheritance or composition,
and even then there's feature redundancy with the first-page-related features
of individual page styles. Which is not a terrible thing, but it is at least
confusing and seems like us not having properly decided how we want to do
things, so that two approaches got implemented.

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