https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154409

Telesto <tele...@surfxs.nl> changed:

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--- Comment #5 from Telesto <tele...@surfxs.nl> ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #3)
> If the frame contains text you definitely want to edit it rather than moving
> things around.

True

> We have a large number of tickets around this topic some use
> cases demand for quick editing other for the opposite (your shape with
> caption example).

Even faster? You can directly click on text in frame at this point? But yes, I
would be very disturbing if clicking on caption text would entail selecting the
frame. [Example: Insert a text box. type some text. Deselect the text. Click on
the text]

> A possible solution is to have a design vs. edit modus that needs to be
> switched manually (where per button or per double click).

Yes

> We could also define a (larger) range/area/zone around the frame that 
> wouldn't >go into the edit mode but key here is the feedback as most users 
> would click in > the middle of the object to move. I imagine some bluish 
> highlighting of the  
> the frame activation zone on hover.

Also fine with me :-)

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The perceived problem at this point:
* accidentally select modify the position of the image within the frame by
drag.
* accidentally select the image and modifying the anchor of the image within
the frame, instead of the anchor of the frame
* accidentally change the wrap of the image within the frame
* resize the image as such, instead of frame + image (note: there is bug that
image doesn't scale with frame, if frame exceeding the page margins)

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I personally conceptualize caption frame as grouped object. The main reason for
proposing the single click select group/double click to enter group system.

The nicest thing would be if it would be possible exclude the text area of the
frame of the 'grouped' effect. So click on the caption text would directly
access the text itself. This actually how Impress handles things, I think.

Else you end up with something like select frame & press F2, but that's less
intuitive

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