https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140568
Eyal Rozenberg <[email protected]> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keywords| |needsUXEval --- Comment #12 from Eyal Rozenberg <[email protected]> --- (In reply to Stéphane Guillou (stragu) from comment #11) > From the comments, there is agreement that something needs to change, so > setting to "new". Agreement that _something_ needs to change does not mean agreement that the change suggested in the title. I disagree with going further down the weird rabbit hole that we're in. * We have implicit book-binding modes which only implicitly refer to, using page layout names: "Right only" and "Left only". * We have a distinction without a difference in gutter vs margin in pages which are always to be on the same side of the spine/gutter - and pages which are not going to be bound at all. This forces our users to think of binding and gutters, when they should not have to, since they're just printing some pages. This is already enough IMHO to reject this suggestion. But it's not all... * We call the gutter options "top" and "left", even though that is typically not the correct description. That is, the gutter is to _both_ sides of the spine. (Yes, if you print sheets with one side empty, and bind them on one side, then you could say the gutter is on the right and or on the left of the pages; but again - why should we burden our users with this metaphor?) * We have "Left only" and "Right only" page layouts, further confusing users. * For more confusion, think about RTL books, where the page turning order is opposite than for LTR; and about the fact that many places in the LO UI conflate "Left" with "Start" and "Right" with "End". * For even more confusion, There's a checkbox, separate from the "Gutter Position" drop-down list box, entitled "Gutter on right side of page". I am already going insane with these... So, let us not do this at all. Instead, let's: * Drop the entire Page Layout option. * Replace "Gutter on right side of page" with a choice of which side of the page the gutter starts with. Or perhaps drop it too, and take that setting from the choice of RTL/LTR page direction. * The gutter value will now only save as gutter which is added on alternating sides with each consecutive page. * Have the Footer and Header options "Different for Right and Left pages" replaced with "Different for odd and even pages". And perhaps mention they're odd or even in the current sequence of pages (although then there's the question of whether we want to draw users' attention to the concept of a page sequence, which isn't well-fleshed-out in the UI despite its importance). TBH, I'm not claiming that's the only reasonable thing to do. We could, alternatively, be more explicit about sheets and not just pages, and about binding, and things like folios, quartos etc. And have more meaningful and illustrative previews. But I really dislike what we have now. So, suggest marking INVALID or WONTFIX for the reason of going for a more fundamental change. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
