On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 11:17:20AM -0500, Terrence Enger wrote: > On Fri, 2013-01-18 at 08:04 -0800, Joel Madero wrote:
>> Can someone triage this one? Thanks in advance! > And there has been quit a bit of subsequent discussion. > I wonder just what Lionel was proposing [1] after the announcement > [2] of changed licence for the mariadb / mysql client library. I was commenting that for LibreOffice, this is not sufficient. We, as a project, have decided not to ship (binaries compiled from) GPL code in our main product, that is LibreOffice (we do "ship" GPL code that does not end up in LibreOffice, e.g. in http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/contrib/dev-tools/tree/make-3.82-gbuild ). The MySQL native (SDBC) connector is made as follows:: MySQL SDBC connector itself (SISSL / Apache / LGPL licence, depending on version) using MySQL Connector/C++ (GPL) using MySQL Connector/C (AKA libmysql or client Library) (GPL) Swapping out the MariaDB client library for the MySQL client library brings the picture to: MySQL SDBC connector itself using MySQL Connector/C++ (GPL) using libmariadb (LGPL) So still not OK for integration into LibreOffice proper, because still a GPL component. For us to be able to ship the MySQL SDBC connector (with our current self-imposed policy), one of these things has to be done: 1) Write an Apache/BSD/LGPL/... licensed "clone" of MySQL Connector/C++ OR 2) Change the MySQL SDBC connector to not need "MySQL Connector/C++", but use libmysql/libmariadb directly (these are API-compatible; we would ship with libmariadb, but if a downstream user would want to swap it with libmysql, technically there should be no problem) But that's "only" *our* policy. Any third party can make a different choice, and e.g. Debian has made another choice and *does* ship GPL code, including the MySQL Connector/C++ and the MySQL SDBC connector for use with LibreOffice. It is my understanding any such third party would be allowed to upload the MySQL SDBC connector for use with LibreOffice to extensions.libreoffice.org; I don't see on that website a policy that forbids that. If any such third party would do that, at least for Microsoft Windows and MacOS X, I believe it would make some of our users happier. > How would this compare in effort and benefit to the job of making > the mysql extension work with LibreOffice 4.0? The MySQL extension just needs to be compiled/linked against LibreOffice 4.0; then it should work. No development work needed. Only building (for GNU/Linux and MacOS (if necessary): on an OS install as old as what the extension wants to be compatible with). So, here's how "it" compares in effort and benefit, "it" being "the stuff described in the ESC minutes that you linked to". - MUCH more work - MUCH more benefit, since it would allow the MySQL SDBC connector to be bundled with LibreOffice. I will *gladly* review a patch that does that! > Just by the way, does this change of licence return mysql to > consideration for LO's built-in database [4]? No, because this is only the client library, not the database engine itself. For our embedded database, we want to ship a database engine. The database engine is still GPL. Be it MySQL or MariaDB. -- Lionel _______________________________________________ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
