Hello Yifan, *, On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 01:01:21PM +0800, Yifan Jiang wrote: > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 07:38:39PM +0100, Thomas Hackert wrote: > > > Of course, I saw your previous discussion as well. > > > > which one? The one on the Germanophone discuss ML? > > hehe, I meant I saw your active discussion in the mailing list at > de.libreoffice.org.
O.K. > My point was we do not assign the permission > blindly to people who have never had relevant work before, which may > cause unexpected trouble. Understandable ... ;) > So demonstrated contribution is a good > reason to make us to assign Moztrap managing permission and I believe > you are the right person :) Thanks :) > > > Please be aware to let the mailing list know if you want to revise > > Which ML? This one? > > Yes, the libreoffice-qa mailing list will be the ideal place. O.K. Then I will look for a good newsreader for the commandline the next days ... ;) > > Oh, I just want to translate existing ones to German ... ;) Maybe > > correct some existing ones (when I find a missing attachment, spelling > > mistakes or so ... ;) > > Cool, this is even more easy to do than to add case. With your account > login, find the interesting case in: > > http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/manage/cases/ Done ... ;) > Then click the pencil icon at the head part of the test case line, you > will jump to edting page. Find the section of German, and you can > translate the cases there. Oh, I have found it yesterday, after I logged it to find out, what has changed with my changed role ... ;) But I will only find the time to read further to the Moztrap User and/or Admin Guide next WE ... :( And then maybe a little bit translation, too ... ;) > By default you are in "version 0" automatically, more about version is > explained as below. O.K. > > What about > > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Moztrap/Moztrap_Admin_Guide? Your > > linked site seems a little bit too developish to me (when it starts with > > "REST API") ... :( > > Yes, it makes sense if you want to do translate existed cases > only. Plus these pages give an overview of how we are exactly using > Moztrap for Libreoffice test cases management. O.K. > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Test_Case > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Test_Cases_Organization Oh boy ... I cannot escape the feeling, that I will spend most of the Easter days reading documentation and the like instead of translating test cases ... :( > > What does "Version 0" mean? Is this the same as "4.0" from LO? > > Version 0 is a special version we defined in Moztrap as a *base* > version for every other versions. Other versions should be consistent > with the target LO version that we are gonna test. Hm ... Does this "base version" relate to the version of the test case? Say: If I write a new test case e.g. for Base (no pun intended ... ;) ), then this would be version 0 (or base version) of this test? And other versions would be an enhancement to this test? Or a translation? Or ... ? Or do I get you wrong here? > To be in more clear explanation, VERSION is a Moztrap specific concept > distinguishing a test case content from different versions, by the Maybe I am little bit confused by all this "versions" (or my English is too bad or so ... ;) ), but what do you mean with "from different versions" here? Different versions of LO? Different versions of the test case? > fact, though unusually, we may have different test case instructions > for the same test topic. I fear so ... ;) > When we create a test run for testing, we have to specify a VERSION, > which means exactly only the cases in that VERSION will be shown in > the target test run. O.K. I think (after logging in Moztrap and clicking through the different menus ... ;) ), I am understanding it now (I hope ... ;) ): 1. You write the test, which is not LO version specific. 2. Moztrap will assign version 0 to it. 3. After saving the test and clicking on "Editing $Name of the test" you can assign it as an new test (does this the "+1 (add this version)" mean?) or to any existing test case (now only 3.6 and 4.0 are available in the menu). Am I right? If not, please correct me ... ;) > Namely, we may have the same set test cases in different test > runs. However, thanks to the VERSION feature, these test cases set can > be in different wording because they are actually independent in > content. O.K. > All the above reveals the VERSION importance when we managing test > cases. Moztrap has a solution for how to correctly manage versions. I > am not gonna be verbose here, Not ;? I think, you are verbose (but in a positive way) ... ;) > but the reason we want to at least > update everything generic in "Version 0" is we want a consistent case > version management. As a result: > > - we have a community "agreement" that each case's Version 0 is > the latest edited version of the test case Why do you put "agreement" in quotation marks? Is it not an official agreement? > - every new version is "branched" from Version 0, so that they can > include the latest update of the test cases But how do you "branch" it? > This is the way how we are gonna manage versions in a cooperative > way. More details can be found in the headache documents above :) Just out of curiosity: When I start translating a test, would it keep the version number 0 or would it become version 1 then? > Just in case, in practice, the 'version' operation of a test case can > be found on the right top corner when you edit a case like: > > http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/manage/caseversion/419/ O.K. > > > later versions, so that all the versions of the test case would > > > have the new test case included. > > > > > > Any questions please do not hesitate to ask :) > > > > As only a simple user, who just want to translate the test cases, I find > > this information too much ... :( Do I really know all this stuff? > > No, it is not necessary to read through everything before start > working, but it makes sense to understand what will be changed or > influenced by your revising :) To this aspect, the documents are good > references. "Sigh" ... O.K., then I will spend my next WE with reading Moztrap documentation ... ;) > > > > And I miss a function to skip tests in Moztrap ... :( Is it possible to > > > > implement it? > > > > > > Sorry I did not notice features like that. How does that work as? > > > Would you specify a little bit more. > > > > When I logged in to run the test, the first one was the test to install > > the Korean Langpack and do some tests with it. As I am not a Korean nor > > able to read or write it, I would like to see a button "Skip Test" as > > there are only buttons for "Pass Test" and "Fail Step". I am there to > > test the Germanophone version of LO, not the Korean nor Japanese nor ... > > ;) And maybe there are test cases not fitting my OS, architecture or the > > like. And then I would like to be able to skip a test instead of click > > on "Fail Step" ... ;) > > Something as it was in the old OOo TCM ... ;) > > Hehe, not necessarily mark to skip. If you do not test it, simply > leave it there alone. O.K. > Actually you simply need to mark pass/fail/invalid what you have done. O.K. I thought there would be a possibility to get to the next test instead of scrolling down and clicking on the next arrow in front of the next test ... ;) > Leave other uninteresting cases for other people who may be interested > in them. That is to say, other people can see which cases have been > executed by you, and vice versa :) Would this be NL specific or would I see all testers? > > Thank you for your information and have a nice evening > > Thank you for your comments and questions :) They help out to refine > the documentation. Please let me know if you find anything obsolete or > unclear in wiki page. I will do it ... ;) But maybe my questions help you to clear them in the Wiki ... ;) Have a nice evening Thomas. -- A pat on the back is only a few centimeters from a kick in the pants. _______________________________________________ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
