Hi, On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 09:35:55AM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: > Personally I love the scope the BSA provides for making the end-user > presented components arbitrarily better. I'd love to make it easier to > find the BSA, and point more people at it instead of bugzilla - which (I > agree) is uber-lame for new users. I'm personally surprised that only > 30% (IIRC) of bugs come through the BSA - and I guess it'd be > interesting to work out what refererres the others come from so we can > 'BSA'-them ;-)
I guess, the 30% BSA bugs come from the fact that most bugs need a bit of back and forth with the report -- which still happens exclusively on bugzilla. Also I dont think thats bad, if people who come back use bugzilla once they found their way around in it -- actually that is a Good Thing. IMHO we should look at primarily is first-bugs-filed at bugzilla, not those filing their second, third, tenth bug: If even people who never used bugzilla or the BSA also go for bugzilla, we should indeed look at that. However, my suspicion still is: - people go to BSA - BSA tells them to get a fdo bugzilla account - they request one, and wait for the mail they need to confirm - they get some friendly welcome mail from bugzilla telling them they can now start filing bugs (and of course link to _bugzilla_ and not the BSA) The last step is breaking the BSA workflow. Of course, if it were _our_ bugzilla, we could change that. ;) > Which makes me think: have we considered adding the initial feedback > page not as some intermediate page before the BSA - but as an initial > flow for the BSA itself ? :-) particularly if you don't have a bugzilla > account re-directing people to Ask / give an easy +1/-1 etc. ? I dont think adding pages would do any good, but we could/should: - have a link to IRC #libreoffice-qa on all pages of the BSA (like we have it in the footer of gerrit) - possibly more work: - trigger on words/phrases like "cant find" or "how" and then ask people, if they are needing support and offering a link to ask then(*). Best, Bjoern (*) Although that sucks, too: - go to BSA - create bugzilla account, get no link back to BSA - go there on your own - Start describing your issue - get told "you should use ask instead" - click link - need OpenID login - describe problem _again_ ... _______________________________________________ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/