* Present: + Norbert, Andras, Bjoern, Jacobo, Kendy, Kohei, Michael M, Miklos, Stephan, Eike, David, Caolán, Christian, Robinson, Ptyl, Cedric
* Completed Action Items: + blog about the sad realities of web plugins (Bjoern) + look at Excel threaded loading issue (Michael) + move the redmine data across to infra / bugzilla (Bjoern) + open-source newer Synezip tests (Umesh) [ uncertain outcome; but planned to run these on a server on the cloud service, announce the results in the ESC meeting. ] + poke Alex wrt. off-site backup for TDF services (Cloph) [ spoke to him, and added to the task queue ]. + everyone review a gerrit patch (All) [ master patch queue down to two pages now ] * Pending Action Items: + Ask Bjoern to do a survey on the wrench icons (Mirek) + provide wiki links for new processes for design interation (Mirek) * Release Engineering update (Cloph) + vacation was good - a break from the computer... + 4.2.7 RC1 + already branched and tagged + Norbert upgraded XCode upgrade dropped 10.8 -> Mac build delayed + change in the underlying C++ lib an issue in a .7 release. + Linux build has issues http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/writerfilter/source/dmapper/DomainMapper_Impl.cxx?id=a392a1deb0bb55f39f0232f9b3df8ad9ac9062af is problematic commit + Windows build up-loading soon. + Review appreciated for these patches: + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/q/status:open+project:core+branch:libreoffice-4-2,n,z + if you miss 4.2.7 - that's it: its the last release. + need tripple reviews - have had a -1 but no feedback since. + 4.3.3 RC1 - freeze on Monday + tagging normally on Tuesday. + credits: Tor not listed - why ? http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/credits/ + in the alias file from gitdm-config, we have a duplicate alias that looses commits, and fixed that also for Joerg Scottke + Android Remote AI: + copy/paste the 4.3 schedule -> 4.5 schedule wiki page (Cloph) * Mac has new code-signing scheme from 10.9 (Norbert) + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84352 + https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/mac/technotes/tn2206/_index.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/DTS40007919-CH1-TNTAG205 + lots of new rules & configuration restrictions to avoid triggering gatekeeper. + should we back-port Tor's work to 4.3 ? (Norbert) + scary to back-port it, a bit reluctant + so people get warnings when they install for now + talk to Tor to see what he recommends ? (Norbert) + back-porting moves files around, quite a lot of work etc. + ending up with a hard-breakage is unpleasant. AI: + come back next week with a proposal (Norbert) + leaning towards deferring for 4.4 anyway. + we've prolly found most of the delicate bits (Stephan) + found bits like this in the SDK last week. + will break something, but perhaps few people used them. + also happier to defer to 4.4 * Crashtest update (Miklos) + new results: http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/e29862bcc509916e7fe3e9b2f43b0672c49b7f6e/ (27-Sep-2014) + configure option to turn on export validation during the build. + already done for calc & impress, now enabled for a subset of the writer test-cases. + why not on by default ? (Michael) + requires officetron & Java and ... + Markus' tinderbox has it enabled AI: + Create an Easy-hack for setting validators automatically (Miklos) + did my threading fix work ? (Michael) + bit of a delay till crashtesting provides feedback (Miklos) + worth double checking some of the other XLSX files (Caolan) + Caolan on a mission to get these numbers right down currently. * Hackfests + Seattle 'Libre-Fest' (Robinson) https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2014/Seattle_LibreFest + October 26, 2014 + Bug-triaging/Intro-to-community event + Following SeaGL conference + definite interest, heard back from some professors from the security lab + want to meet Norbert and/or Kohei and/or Bjoern - why not go ? + Organizer wants to make it security related ... (Kohei) + not ideal; perhaps mis-lead by the 'hack' name + one of the labs / a set of labs at Uni. of Washington + a couple of security based team, capture-the-flag team / lab directors was interested in connecting with us. + try to avoid the circus (Michael) + continue the discussion on E-mail (Bjoern) + Toulouse Hackfest (Arnaud) + Confirmed for Nov. 15-16th + more details: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Toulouse2014 + Munich hack-fest (Jan-Marek): http://www.it-muenchen-blog.de/2014/07/bug-squashing-party-2014/ + jmux (IRC) can add you if you don't want to create an account + will have a BSP come-together; if someone says they're coming just show up etc. + November 21st-23rd, 2014 https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2014/11/de/Munich + we should drop by with 2 or 3 developers, if possible + Be great to have -really- easy easy hacks for devs (Bjoern) + would it be good to have more focuse hack-fests (Michael) * Coverity (Caolan) + updated to a new compiler for more, deeper joy + new cut/paste code detecting is great (Caolan) + what about tainting issues ? (Michael) + a problem; bit lame; internal resource files a non-issue + no replies from them on disabling tainting for a safe file. + it detects byte-swapping to turn tainting on: assumes it is coming from a network etc. (guess) ? + love to be able to disable error foo from 16bit loop variables, 64k not a huge number. * UX Update (Kendy) + minutes published of the first design hang-out, yesterday http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg06744.html + was fun, we were able to have some decisions too. + new process / how-to-do-things + add things to have decided to the etherpad of the design hangout http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/design + and wait for Kendy to post minutes. + otherwise, talking over things going in from last week, encouraging to see. * QA (Robinson) + unconfirmed count dropped by ~50 or so this week. + questions from QA team wrt. back-porting bug-fixes + a couple of people interested in that + when do we decide to back-port to 4.3 ? + people noticed things fixed on master, but not back-ported. + currently left up to the developer on a case-by-case basis (Michael) + length of patch no guide to risk sadly. + ask and you shall maybe recieve (?) + usually developer decides as they commit * Up-loaded the tinderboxing bits for docker (Bjoern) + making it easier to deploy and manage lots of tinderboxes easily + magic orchestration stuff. + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/gitweb?p=tb3-docker.git;a=summary + isn't it a bit limited ? (Cedric) + Linux only, one distro etc. ? + surely the power of tinderboxes is hetrogenous architectures. + useful anyway (Bjoern) * QA stats: + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html +185 -140 (+45 overall) many thanks to the top bug squashers: Caolán McNamara 15 Samuel Mehrbrodt 15 Adolfo Jayme 10 Jean-Baptiste Faure 7 Jay Philips 7 Matthew Francis 7 tommy27 6 A (Andy) 5 raal 4 Robinson Tryon (qubit) 4 * Open 4.4 MAB + 3/12 3/12 3/12 7/12 3/8 3/8 4/8 4/8 3/7 3/7 2/5 1/2 1/1 + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=79641&hide_resolved=1 * Open 4.3 MAB + 17/61 16/60 14/59 15/58 12/54 13/53 14/52 14/50 11/47 14/47 14/45 19/43 27% 26% 23% 25% 22% 24% 26% 28% 23% 29% 33% 44% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=75025&hide_resolved=1 * Open 4.2 MAB + 86/257 88/257 89/257 91/257 86/252 82/245 83/244 83/243 84/236 85/235 33% 35% 34% 35% 34% 33% 34% 34% 35% 36% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=65675&hide_resolved=1 * Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected' + 147/401 143/392 143/389 146/385 142/375 141/374 136/361 127/349 + http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q * all bugs tagged with 'regression' + 475(+9) bugs open of 3078(+18) total * ~Component count net * Writer - 142 (+2) Spreadsheet - 93 (+1) Presentation - 32 (+1) Crashes - 31 (+1) Libreoffice - 24 (+0) Database - 26 (+0) UI - 23 (+2) Graphics - 22 (-1) Borders - 19 (+0) Filters - 17 (+1) Drawing - 16 (+1) Print / PDF - 14 (+1) Chart - 10 (+1) BASIC - 5 (+0) Extensions - 5 (+0) Linguistic - 4 (+0) Installation - 4 (+0) Formula - 4 (+0) framework - 1 (+0) sdk - 0 (+0) Impress Remote - 0 (+0) + http://bit.ly/15mM2Yn - for devs ( no NEEDINFO / UNCONFIRMED ) -- michael.me...@collabora.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot _______________________________________________ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/