Hi Cor, Cor Nouws píše v Út 25. 09. 2012 v 14:58 +0200:
> > I've talked to an Impress power user recently, and he was complaining > > about the buttons in the slide sorter [the thing you can see on the > > attached screenshot]. This was actually not the first complaint I got, > > and also I remembered our discussions that we should do something about > > them, so I decided to just kill them for now: > > Hmm, currently the pop-up is the (only?) way to see the name of the slide. > How should we think about that? That is not changed currently, as that is a tooltip, and shows outside the slide; so even if somebody clicked on that by mistake , it has no effect, compared to the Button bar, where you usually end up with a hidden or duplicated slide [happened few times even to me - but IIRC I've never went with the mouse far enough to start the presentation ;-)]. > And does the removing also refer to the little toolbar in the side pane? > (If I see the number of line changes in the commit, I guess yes...) Not sure if I understand you correctly; I removed the "Button bar" that is highlighted on the screenshot attached to the original mail, which I think you refer to as 'the little toolbar' - but not sure. > Therefore the good OpenOffice.org developers and people conducted a > large project some years ago, Renaissance. > Of course the toolbar is one of the changes the was a result from that. > I guess all the work was done, because many obvious actions are not easy > enough accessible for Joe-average. And that these were only the first > steps in a route to make Impress (&more) more contemporary. > The little pop-ups fit more in modern UI (-expectations) I guess then > context menu's - let alone short-cuts and pull down menus... I don't think I agree with you here. The touch-based devices need to have everything shown, nothing appearing based on a presence of a mouse pointer; and it seems to me as a good trend in general. Please note that Renaissance is 3-4 years old project. I have heard complaints about this Button bar from several people, and no 'oh, I love these appearing buttons' - so I believe we are fine. The same with the appearing / disappearing header / footer controls - lots of complaints that it is too much disruptive, so I believe that not using any controls that appear after a timeout only supports that the above mentioned trend is Good :-) All the best, Kendy _______________________________________________ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
