https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132880
--- Comment #4 from Telesto <tele...@surfxs.nl> --- Thanks for all the explaining.. I certainly missed a few points... However, combining two settings in one button is quite confusing.. (a) If you set a color when no shape is selected, then it will become the default for newly inserted shapes. (b) if there is already a selected shape, so only that shape gets the color change. Otherwise, each time you will change the color of some shape, it will become the default for newly inserted shapes, which might not always be the desired result. -> However this causes the situation that can't see what the color is, which will be inserted.. Let there be user benjamin (me).. I'm not aware/ of not working with styles. Because I can't set the settings before insertion (except for color, which not working as expected).. I end up with inserting a shape -> clicking it.. and changing the settings.. I'm even such an idiot that do this quite often for every shape separately after insertion In my view it's lacking a setting to set the color/border in advance.. before insertion.. And format -> area is not a button I expected to work as a global setting :-). Another issue: I can't see on screen what is set.. If i choose an area fill or something like that.. And the it's even more confusing 1. Go to Format -> Area -> Area -> Bitmap tab (select one) (without a shape selected) 2. Insert a shape.. no reconsider.. I want a color instead of bitmap.. Select the shape and click color fill (left sidebar).. not working 3. Now I can correct it using the sidebar -> properties deck.. A partial fix would be.. show the Area/line properties deck also without a shape selected.. And/or replace the color picker button in the left sidebar. for a formatting bar which appears in Writer when clicking a shape. Except it's is always available in Draw; not context depended as in Writer -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. _______________________________________________ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise