https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143013
Eyal Rozenberg <eyalr...@gmx.com> changed:
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--- Comment #5 from Eyal Rozenberg <eyalr...@gmx.com> ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #3)
> > Few typefaces have both oblique and italic designs,
That seems to be true.
> as this is generally a
> > fundamental design choice about how the font should look.
This is commentary, not fact. In Hebrew, for example, it is faux pas to slant a
font. There isn't even an italic form, although in some rare cases, font
designers create a variant which is slants both forward and backwards, for a
sort of a rhomboid shape (David CLM), or have the horizontal lines curve
upwards and downwards for more of a roundish shape (Drugulin CLM).
> A font designer
> > normally decides to design their font with one or the other.
Actually, it's more the case that if an Italic font isn't part of the design,
then a serious font designer without too much pressure on him/her would simply
not have an oblique variant. It is considered (not universally, but widely) a
type-crime:
https://creativepro.com/dont-commit-the-type-crime-of-applying-faux-italic-in-microsoft-word/
https://listverse.com/2012/06/24/top-10-typography-crimes/
And in Hebrew, this is even stricter: Typographic guidelines in many (most?)
venues simply order you not to use oblique/slanted forms at all, period.
I was actually considering creating a feature request for LO to simply not
offer to use oblique Hebrew variant, except if you enable them by a special
preference, defaulted-off. But then I noticed that few rare exceptions of
non-italic "italics".
> The two - italic vs oblique - are just internal technical method of creating
> a slanted variant of the font, which will be the only one for a given font.
Absolutely not. Italic variants of font families are a respectable typographic
tradition going back centuries and influenced by handwritten forms. Oblique /
"mechanically" slanted font family variants are hacks. Some consider them
useful hacks, others consider them unsightly hacks, but hacks nonetheless.
> The "italic" term is well-established to not only relate to the strict
> technical method, but also to more generic meaning of slanted font variant
That is only true for lay users of word processors, not for those with any
knowledge of typography. I'm suggesting we ameliorate this state of affairs.
PS - In Arabic and Farsi the situation is different than both Hebrew and Latin,
because fonts are all basically still cursive, and originally weren't even
written in straight lines but with a downward slope, making the idea of
slanting all the more weird, but others would be more qualified than me to
comment on that. I don't know about other scripts.
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