Hi Michael, Jay, all
Il 09.06.2017 10:59 Michael Meeks ha scritto:
Hi Jay,
On 09/06/17 00:10, Jay Philips wrote:
+ unclear what the future holds here: Snap, FlatPack, AppImage
(Michael)
If its Libreoffice future, i believe AppImage will be it, as it
provides similar functionality as the portable version found on
windows, like
1) not having to install it on your system to run it (aka portable)
The "just run the console and do chmod +x <downloaded-file-name>" that
I see on their front-page is (I suspect) rather a bit of a usability
nightmare ;-) at least initially vs. say an app-store. Some 'technical'
people I know are impressed by command-line use ;-)
2) copying it on a usb and run it on any linux distro (atleast the
minimum system that LO supports, something that snap and flatpak cant
do)
Nice.
3) easily running multiple versions (would improve linux QA, as it
would also lower that barrier for users to test old versions)
I guess.
I'm using appimage to create the various versions of LibreOffice to use
for client ticket testing.
+ how is flat-pack hosted currently ? (Michael) + build & up-load,
and cloph pushes it (Stephan) + whenever there is a 5.3.x it is
build – following Fresh. + no daily build.
If the bash conversion script isnt run locally on the webserver, then
Antonio is willing to create the appimages and upload them.
That seems reasonable. I guess it needs an active maintainer who fixes
problems with it - that is not Cloph =) is that you and/or Antonio ?
I'm available to help.
+ the request is “become a linux distribution” (Michael) +
flat-pack doesn’t include the GNOME run-time (Stephan) + AppImage
sounds like it will include ~everything: Gstreamer + all codecs
etc. - from some random PC (Michael)
No the appimage will only include the same files LO bundles in the
released .deb and .rpm files found in the .tar.gz. It assumes the
users system has the necessary other dependencies on their system.
This removes my major objection at least; if so - good =)
+ AppImage works hard to solve a problem we already solved: of
being an ISV on Linux – it is hard but solveable.
Appimage tries to solve a major problem on linux, easily running an
app on any linux distro, especially new apps on a stable distro.
I guess its useful to some people =) is there a central app-store /
location to find appimages ?
I will try to attend next week but doubt it will work as VOIP
services like hangouts and skype dont function correctly where i live
Is Antonio in a better location for international calls ?
Yes, I'm in Italy.
So to move this forward and test the waters, it would be great to
setup a page on the website for appimage[13] for the 5.4 beta 2 and
link the download links to either an uploaded appimagage on tdf
infra[14] or to the one on Antonio's website.
Sounds reasonable to me to test this out as experimental for the 5.4.x
release and if it works well for 6.0.
I agree, it seems to me the best way.
Any further thoughts Cloph ?
Thanks Jay & Antonio !
Michael.
Regards,
Antonio
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