-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 03/06/15 15:09, Sytse Sijbrandij wrote: > > we both want to see more freedom and collaboration in software development. > *** I'm glad you say so.
I see the Gitlab-Gitorious case as a flagship case for the GPL. I can understand Linus Torvald's position that GPLv2 offers "I give you the code, and you give back the changes", and that he's uncomfortable with GPLv3 imposing equal usage opportunity. I can understand that you and other companies have to earn income in order to exist, and proprietary licensing is an easy way to earn more money. But I'm thinking on a global scale (the only one that remains really) and I think that if produced code lands in the public space and remains there, no matter how much money your competition can throw at outbidding you, if they distribute their code to their customers, they also distribute it back to you, which is not the case with non-copyleft software. That makes for a fair and even competition. I'm certainly not a free market person, but as I see it, free market ideologists can only support such a situation, otherwise they're just hypocrites like those who claim to support freedom and do use free code, but invoke all kinds of reasons for restricting competition and sharing back with the community on which shoulders they stand. If there's no way to restrict competition, therefore cooperation can occur much more consistently, because the rules of the game changed from supporting offer monopolies to supporting demand. The problem of income remains, but it now has a different setting: as everyone is in the same boat, we're not looking at a free market situation but at a common pool resource situation. The outcome of such shifts from advantage-to-greed to advantage-to-fairness. How we, free software supporters, make this situation livable, is by increasing mutual support, including considering solving the resource allocation issues beyond the limits of each small group. The role that Gitlab B.V. can play there is worth considering seriously. == hk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJU+nsHXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRFQ0IyNkIyRTNDNzEyMTc2OUEzNEM4ODU0 ODA2QzM2M0ZDMTg5ODNEAAoJEEgGw2P8GJg9eb8P/09mbJnlEwjTEIXE4UhIzaPk 6bjpcvdU7i21RL1zpdbZPHz2P4rmKjQWQTa/gOc61BKnpLhx2eh27n60XOzkrne4 a7c698674EeiESAZ8XncNuAsSJlOYkuePojeacAKuDDNEy6Y18Mv1h/iP9hTK881 +8BuK3dpTteFbBOqvPh5Gj9bjdo8DsVWnqAQEdv/qkch1sQPjFA/SOCJ5OljPJ1+ NK4sqeTUgrVAGeatXqRp2JUojz5ficu2BKDnrkY4tksw23WdwQ84DEstDKW7feqU By4jBhv5+G8fX3T6t/bFOUmsLNhPr9ksaUXUQothzxcKR1ILqCvb8N+pqh9PdGxf iKvW07P64W+rcuZbu58LvjYpT0oFk4W75CwRuqLoktECqCVPQ4bHGdyk+Jxf6ftf MXutN5FnD2eeoPwWQpRqWIdn4yLsy5+7TzJOBo/vSxfDuTaadlaihL3vCmzB+8Hq VkkP/ouJIEhxbrzF/MsYM8T85berxeAnHhihxMUS2LQSlEjI0o2xpkI2b/jAeylA +/0G++i40Gn5PFLvuziFeLuMblYVQ6WHcCS8PvGanZK48fRKnj8SK/7ErRHgKbi1 fslYVwR7wa8/fZQaly0AshtzUeIS8yokRCYSmQCNf1xGSWvQ1ufEUsFNxwI1xv/Z YrtvR0iXcv/P30ZhgHZN =rCZL -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----