Oh, and I've just learnt that all discourse install gives their users the ability to run in a safe-mode <https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-use-discourse-safe-mode/53504> stripping javascript \o/
On 22/06/17 00:33, A.S. wrote: > > discourse <https://www.discourse.org/features> gives its users both > "Mailing list mode" and "Activity summary" by email. AFAIK, it even > bridges email replies as comments on the actual platform. Plus, the > license > <https://github.com/discourse/discourse/blob/master/LICENSE.txt> is > GPL v2. > > > On 22/06/17 00:02, Connor Doherty wrote: >> Those two did not propose anything, but having both email and web interfaces >> was indeed my proposal from the start, as per the initial email. >> >> ________________________________ >> From: libreplanet-discuss >> <[email protected]> on behalf >> of willi uebelherr <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 9:30:13 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Libreplanet using Discourse for mailing >> lists and web-based forums? >> >> Dear friends, >> >> like Mike Gerwitz i agree very much with the proposals from J.B. >> Nicholson. We have to combine and not to separate. Normally with his own >> access to the common data. Without copy. >> >> many greetings, willi >> >> >> Am 20/6/2017 um 21:44 schrieb J.B. Nicholson: >>> Connor Doherty wrote: >>>> * Mailman, the software usually used for mailing lists, shows its age, >>>> with an unnecessarily clunky, under-designed web interface. >>> Two big good things about Mailman 2's web interface: it's optional (one >>> can do mailing list management via email) and it doesn't require >>> Javascript (it's entirely form driven). I don't know about Mailman 3's >>> interface. >>> >>> Not using Javascript (JS) is a good thing to me because it means I don't >>> have to review code to make sure the webpage isn't trying to do >>> something beyond letting me supply an email address to manage my own >>> list details. Free software JS doesn't address this concern at all (thus >>> this concern is out of scope for LibreJS): This concern has nothing to >>> do with whether I can run, copy, modify, or share the JS. I come across >>> too many pages where JS is added on because some web developer thinks >>> it's a good idea to implement a feature in that way, and along the way >>> (most of the time) the web developer has clients loading in JS from >>> various other places and the client's security now depends on JS from >>> multiple sources. All of this (and the commensurate slowdown due to >>> executing JS) so I can have features I probably don't want in the first >>> place (and don't have to deal with at all in a mailing list). >>> >>> I see "Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled" on >>> https://community.cartalk.com/login even though there's nothing about >>> logging into anything that genuinely requires JS to do that job. >>> >>> But as you say with Discourse, I don't see this as an either-or >>> situation: the Trisquel GNU/Linux forum is an example of a >>> Mailman-managed mailing list and a web forum where posts to either are >>> copied between the two. I never use the web forum, and I'm sure there >>> are people who never use the mailing list but we discuss things all the >>> same. Whatever software they're using seems to work out well enough >>> (perhaps better for the mailing list users as I understand the web forum >>> admins can "lock out" a thread but this doesn't seem to carry over to >>> the mailing list, thus I can post to any thread or start a new thread at >>> any time). >>> >>>> * More importantly, the mailing list concept has proven bad for >>>> scaling. With tiny projects, the notion of "automatically subscribe me >>>> to every new post to every new thread" for a topic or a slew of topics >>>> might make sense or at least be harmless. But when a community booms, >>>> many find it unrealistic to manage all of the emails in the mailing >>>> list. >>> I don't see this as a problem. I see this as a feature: I have no >>> problem filing the list emails into a folder and reading them when I >>> have time. I subscribe to multiple lists and I do this quite >>> successfully across them all using an interface I know, scales well to >>> service many people, and doesn't require that I learn a new interface to >>> do what I come to a list to do -- read and participate in discussions. >>> These days it's easy to get an email account with lots of space. >>> >>>> * The best mailman can do is roll up messages into a "digest". This >>>> makes it harder to reply quickly, and while it might solve growing pains >>>> at the couple-of posts a day scale, it's still useless above that or for >>>> people who don't want another daily email. >>> I've never found mailing list digests to be handy or wise because they >>> break threads and people don't take the time to edit their posts to only >>> what's relevant for that post. Posters typically leave a lot of other >>> digested posts in their followup. But this doesn't seem like an issue >>> on-topic here. Perhaps it's worth turning off digesting for a list in >>> Mailman 3. >>> >>>> My suggestion in this regard is a piece of libre software called >>>> Discourse<http://www.discourse.org/>. I apologize if this has already >>>> been suggested elsewhere. >>> I looked at the instance on https://community.cartalk.com/ and saw some >>> top-level threads there. All the discussions seem to take place in one >>> thread per discussion. I couldn't easily figure out who was replying to >>> whom in any discussion. I hope this is configurable so proper discussion >>> threading can be done. >>> >>>> What's relevant here, especially for those afraid of change, is that >>>> while Discourse may be a "fancy web forum", it can [now] be completely >>>> interacted with via email, putting it near feature parity with mailing >>>> list software. >>> Where can one find an example of this mailing list interface? >>> >>> I'd like to see where I can find archives of a Discourse-managed mailing >>> list and download those archives in mbox format (with no JS required) so >>> I can add those archived posts to my email clients and browse the threads. >>> >>> I'm not going to address the issues you raised with the wiki here >>> because those seem to me to be an entirely separate issue from setting >>> up software that copies posts between a web forum and a corresponding >>> mailing list. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> libreplanet-discuss mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> libreplanet-discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss >> _______________________________________________ >> libreplanet-discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss > _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list [email protected] https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
