On 3/11/20 8:48 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: > If I understand you correctly, you believe: Purism marketing talks about > software freedom and the goal of RYF 100% free hardware, but they don't > deliver to that level, and they minimize or hide the details. You worry > that people buy Purism products believing they are getting more complete > freedom than they actually receive. You doubt Purism's good faith, and > because you feel FSF should be skeptical rather than gracious about > these concerns, FSF is making a mistake by giving Purism a platform or > acknowledgment (at least without some explicit qualifiers from FSF about > these concerns). Is that right? > > I agree with you that marketing claims should not mislead people about > the facts of products. Stating a goal of reaching some standard is not > the same as already being there, and the difference should be plain and > transparent. > > I don't find your jump to speculating about bad faith at all warranted. > There's no evidence that FSF is corrupted in any way around this. And > there's inadequate (though perhaps non-zero) evidence that Purism has > any bad faith. > > In general, you're more likely to learn and also to get others to listen > when you express concerns from a position of genuine curiosity without > hints of accusations and other attacks. > > It can also help to try to create a *strong-man* argument. Generate the > strongest argument you can for a defense of Purism and FSF, and then see > if that holds up to scrutiny. That's much more insightful than > generating weak or straw-man arguments or speculative suspicions. > > On 2020-03-11 12:10, a via libreplanet-discuss wrote: >> This post is directed at officials from libreplanet >> and fsf. >> >> I wrote this post on trisquel's forum. >> https://paste.nolsen.xyz/?98e7462461e8a46c#8YchW86Fn3UvkxdHbfN74cVVoYkFqCGWCx2tWVX5uvZJ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> libreplanet-discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss >>
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