On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 08:00:33PM +0300, Jean Louis wrote: > * Ali Reza Hayati <[email protected]> [2020-10-29 19:33]: > > First step would be moving from corporate-backed services to services > > that are run by companies that value human beings/people instead of > > money. Money is important but the first priority should be people.
Agreed. Or even better, services run by non-profit charities. As an example, youtube-dl has received offers from non-profit charities to host their repository, issues tracker, etc. I hope that youtube-dl will take them up on their offer. These non-profit charities can fight DMCA notices (or similar notices in other countries) to take down youtube-dl and won't just cave to RIAA pressure like big companies such as GitHub/Microsoft will. > > These service should be libre and also out of the U.S. for now as U.S. > > laws are currently very stupid and discriminatory. > > Exactly that. > > There is already so much hosting space for free software on its > mirrors, but if mirror is engaged by the order of US organization, US > court can give order that US organization shut it down, even if it is > in other country. Yes, but the RIAA and others can sue the developers in their home country too. One youtube-dl developer was threatened in this way in their home country of Germany (and the RIAA specifically mentioned a German case in their takedown notice, presumably to threaten the current lead developer of youtube-dl). So we need to take a more holistic approach to solving this. > Libreplanet shall make the page with list of free software hosting > providers that are inside of US jurisdiction and those outside of US > jurisdiction. That is how to counter the DMCA notices and safety of > software. That would be nice to have, but is only a first step. Per above there are a lot of other solutions we can and should pursue. Denver https://jmp.chat/ _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list [email protected] https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
