Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:50:15 -0700 (PDT) From: John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [LIB] speed gain using flash card
Hello Avi Its a lot of work. Basically I matched the ram upgrade module port to a standard 144 so-dimm pinout. So I believe a standard 60ns sodimm module can be used to increase ram. So I have a old 32MB libretto module. What I am doing is first removing the chips an the board then connecting so-dimm sockets to the module using 32 gauge stranded wire. I am soldering the wire to where the chips were soldered and to the socket itself if need be. Once that is done I am going to run the socket into the hard drive bay and fix it to the side. the pinout for the libretto ram port is in the Libretto 100 maintanence manual. john --- Avi Cohen Stuart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 06:01:26 +0100 > From: "Avi Cohen Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [LIB] speed gain using flash card > > John, > > I am very interested in the technical details on the > >64MB libretto > upgrade. > I don't mind to experiment but currently don't have > a clue to do what... > > Avi. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, 29 October, 2007 0:03 > > To: Libretto > > Subject: Re: [LIB] speed gain using flash card > > > > Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:01:36 -0700 (PDT) > > From: John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [LIB] speed gain using flash card > > > > > > --- Philip Nienhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 09:51:48 +0100 > > > From: Philip Nienhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Re: [LIB] speed gain using flash card > > > > > Hello Philip > > : > > <snip> > > > > getting with a standard hard drive. The > extreme > > > III > > > > and IV are opproximatly twice and three times > as > > > fast > > > > as the II so if I would get another increase > if I > > upgraded to one of > > > > those. > > > > > > > > I am getting 4 MB as opposed to 1.5 to 2 with > the > > > hard > > > > drive. I should expect 6 and 8MB with the > extreme > > > III > > > > and IV. > > > > > > AFAIK (based on a vague reminiscence and a > google > > > search) the > > > theoretical maximum data transfer speed on an > ISA bus is > > about 6 MB/s. > > > As the Lib110's HD is attached through a 16 bit > ISA connection > > > (without DMA), that 6 MB/s is about all you'll > get. > > > Or am I wrong here? (hopefully not, for your > sake) > > > > I knew there was some sort of limit, I thought it > was > > 32 MB/s about half of the memory subsystem. But > that could be > > the pci limit. > > > > > > > > > I am also using a second flash card for a > virtual memory > > drive but > > > > it is an old one so only gives > > > hard > > > > drive speeds. If I updated that with a newer > one I would > > think the > > > > increase in speed be noticalbe in > > > swap > > > > file use. > > > > > > How did you connect that 2nd one? thru the > PCMCIA slot? > > > > Yes. > > > > > I remember I found an external -PCMCIA, or > rather, > > > Cardbus- HD to be > > > clearly faster than the internal one (I had a > 7200 rpm Hitachi > > > inside). > > > There was also a thread on this in the mailing > list. > > > > the differance is in the clock speeds, ISA is > slower than PCI. > > > > > > > > > I notice a real reduction in temperature also > > > using a > > > > solid state drive. My libretto was always > having > > > to > > > > slow down to cool off but it is very cool now > when > > > it > > > > runs. > > > > > > Anyway it all sounds like a bright idea to me. > > > > Thanks. I like it so much because the libretto is > perfectly > > silent when it runs now too!! > > > > > > > > Any idea about battery power savings using flash > rather > > than rotating > > > storage? > > > > I don't think there is much differance, my libby > reports > > about 5 1/2 hours usually but I notice I don't > have to plug > > in the adapter now until I am ready to shut down. > It kinda > > did that before but not so routinely. Battery life > is so > > dependant on what a person is doing. Where I > really notice a > > differance is in spin up times. There are none, > with a hard > > drive spin up times were very noticeable. > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes I feel a bit sorry to have > decommissioned my > > L110; it merely > > > serves as a sort of book stand, right on top of > a > > > > What do you use in place of it? I tried the U100 > but it fried > > like twice on me. It was a piece of junk. > > They run too hot and Toshiba doesn't cover them > under > > warrenty. My 110 keeps plugging along no matter > what:). > > > > > much older DEC > > > 450SLC/e notebook (with a 50 Mhz 486-DX2 inside > - wow). Sometimes I > > > start them up just for fun, like today when the > clocks in my place > > > "must" be reset to winter time. > > > > > > BTW have you ever had any luck upgrading the RAM > beyond 64 MB? (I > > > remember you were busy with that). There were > some guys who have > > > fitted > > > > And still am:). I am fitting a wire buss to an old > libretto > > 32MB ram upgrade board. I am going to solder the > buss to a > > couple, maybe three, of so-dimm sockets. > > I am going to run the so-dimm sockets into the > hard drive > > bay, where I have room now (I was just waiting > until compact > > flash capacity got large enough to use as a hard > drive so I > > could try this and have space inside the > libretto), and try > > using standard so-dimm edo plug-in modules. It is > slow going > > because I don't have anywhere to work and lack > tools. > > > > I don't think I'll have to remove the soldered > chips on the > > motherboard. > > > > I have also been thinking of installing a sdram > controller > > and use sdram but all of that is very hard to do > since all I > > have is the memory upgrade port to use for access. > > > > The hard drive bay is a great place for all kinds > of fun!! > > > > > a Portege 64 MB module in the extension slot to > get > > > 96 MB; that was the > > > max I've ever heard of w.r.t. Lib110..... > > > > Yes I remember the upgrade. I am sure the libretto > can handle > > ram up to, at least, 512MB and 8 socketed modules. > > > > john > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Philip > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection > > around http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com