Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:33:28 -0000
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: H Re: ROAD MAPS ON HARD DRIVE
Wow... a lot of ways to go about getting maps on the old 50CT. This problem
I'm having configuring this 3COM combo modem must be something unusual... or
still waiting the person with the magic fix. On the subject of maps though:
>From: David VanHorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>I'm guessing that your Street Atlas USA program does not have this
>>restriction, right?
>
>It does not. I use it constantly. I have the entire USA in detailed maps on
>my PC. So far, I've only used 11 states :)
That's great! I wonder how it compares in functionality to other programs.
I spent 4 months traveling around the USA last summer in my camper, and
found a lot of little things I wished I could have, or change in my Rand
McNally software. Things like the capability to change the start and finish
times of your planned route as you begin each day. The ability to plan a
trip and see detailed maps in the same program (you have to switch between
Tripmaker and StreetFinder with R.M., a real pain). The ability to plan a
route door to door. R.M. only allows for city to city routes. I forgot to
mention that I just acquired Doloreme Street Atlas USA which allows for
this. With a big heavy camper, it'd be nice if the program showed the
topography too, and some function to allow planning routes around heavy
grades.
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>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Matt: I mentioned "Norton Virtual Drive" being on the same disc as Ghost. I
>use the VD program on both the Lib and my desktop. The desktop thinks it
>has 19 drives. 5 real, floppy, HD, CD, CD writer, & zip.
This sounds like the way to go... though after a quick search, I couldn't
locate a vendor online to see how much the program runs. None of my price
search engines came up with anything either.
>The other 14 are virtual drives, Print Shop and Print Master both have 6 or
>7 discs, plus I have Garmin Roads and Rec. for the GPS III +, >DeLorme Topo
>for SW topo maps and 3D.
>
>Jim Ray Sr, Phoenix, AZ, USA, Tracer of lost persons. Keen!
I'll have to look at the other Delorome programs. I imagine I'm not going
to find all the features I'd like in one program. Deloreme Steet Atlas lets
me plan door to door routes, but I imaging the topo porgram is a separate
beast.
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From: "Michael Hodish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Hodish)>
>Microsoft Streets and Trips has an installation option to put all the data
>on the hard disk, if you wish. Best mapping program I have ever used, and
>will interface with GPS if you wish.
>
>Mike Hodish
Like some people, I tend to avoid Microsoft stuff because of ethics problems
I have with them... but they do make some great stuff. I've heard Microsoft
Streets is a great program. I saw an old copy being sold at Costco for $6
after a $20 mail-in rebate. I could swallow that without any problems to
see just what features it has.
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From: "Pres Waterman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>pain when I'm traveling with my 50CT. I'm guessing that your Street Atlas
>>USA program does not have this restriction, right?
>That is correct. All versions of Street Atlas or Map'n'Go from Delorme, as
>well as Microsoft Streets and Trips, allow exporting the data to the HDD.
>Delorme ( for one ) allows you to pick the cities, counties or areas to
>make a large file out of.
Now is this the Delorome Street Atlas program that I have, or something
else. I just picked up this Deloreme program recently after getting back
from my trip last summer, and haven't had the chance to check it out yet.
>In other words, the areas of detail do not have to be
>contiguous. You could have NYC, Orlando, Polk County and Alabama. Or the
>whole US. Precision Mapping used to have the areas in directories, which is
>nice because you can add and subtract areas on
>the fly. But you have to recreate the map file as you add or delete areas
>on Delorme.
Arg... I'd rather just have the whole darned program on the HDD, and have as
much flexibility in any one situation as possible. For planning ahead, this
sounds great, but I'm notorious for being pretty feeble in that regard!
>Oh yes, another solution presented from the Arizona Bureau.
>
>I have a program which looks for its data on a CD. I copied the CD to a
>directory. Then, in autoexec.bat I have:
>
>subst o: c:\data\that-cd
>
>Then, once Windows has started, the O: drive is the stuff in
>c:\data\that-cd so I went into the program's .INI file and modified the
>cd=d: line to cd=o:
>
>That did it.
>
>Thanks
>Pres Waterman
I created a D: partition on my HDD and tried to install and run Rand McNally
to and from it, but I guess the software can distinguish a partition from a
CD-ROM drive... obviously, as the little CD-ROM icon pops up, and moves down
the line when other HDD or virtual partitions pop up in front of it.
I'm assuming the method your describing Pres, get's around that somehow. I
looked into the Rand McNally .ini files, but saw no reference to any drive
letters. This fix is pretty much contingent on there being such a line in
an ini file somewhere though.
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From: Christian Kuiphoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>I use Delorme Street Atlas on my L50. The map data downloads
>to the HD. Works great with the Garmin IIIP! Uploads and
>downloads routes and even talks while driving.
Now, would it be possible to 'download', as you put it, the entire map of
the USA onto the hard drive with Deloreme, or might that entail a long
arduous process of some sort.
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From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>I use Delorme Street Atlas on my L50. The map data downloads to the HD.
>>Works great with the Garmin IIIP! Uploads and downloads routes and even
>>talks while driving.
>>
>Anita does this also. But without the connection to the satellite, we have
>to rely on looking out of the window to see if we recognise any landmarks.
>
>Neil
So who's this chick Anita Neil? Do you think she'd like to come along with
me on my next trip down to Mexico?
Well... I'll look into the capability of my Deloreme Street Atlas software
to put maps onto my HDD. I like the idea of "Norton Virtual Drive" the
best, if I can find a copy, or find some shareware out there that does the
same thing (couldn't come up with anything at TuCows.com or Winfiles.com).
Then too, for $6.00, if Costco still has a copy of Microsoft Streets, that
sounds like a good one to look at, esp. if it will load onto the HDD too.
Now where's that link to a $80 40GB HDD for this little Libby... ;-)
Thanks for all the feedback on map software folks... One more day, and
counting the hours to my having to return this 3COM modem. Am still nervous
about deleting the entry in Device manager for the PCIC controller that
doesn't have the IRQ and memory range settings the 3COM rep said it should
have. What the heck? May as well risk that at the last moment. What can
it mess up other than not being able to plug in external stuff anymore!
Matt
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