Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 11:10:44 -0400
From: David Nedved <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: your mail
Hi Richard,
Pending the arrival of my 110 (Thanks Ken!) I plan on converting the 70
into a primarily jukebox role (as opposed to my only system).
I currently dual boot linux and windows on a 30 GB drive. I use linux
for everything except Quicken and Quickbooks. I use mpg123 from the command
line which is an excellent mp3 player. There are countless front ends
already written for it, many are curses based (which will run without
x windows) and many are xwindows, gtk, kde, whatever GUI based.
I'm still looking around for the front end to use, but this is definitely
the system for me to build my jukebox. If I can't find something I like
I'll write my own using perl and mySql. The best part is that on my 70ct
clocked at 150mhz, the mpg123 process takes less than 50% CPU to play
mp3's. If you think of this as being roughly the equivalent of 75mhz
of power, you should have plenty left over on an oc'd 50ct. Oh, and even
with the PCMCIA drivers loading and getting a dhcp address, etc., my
70ct boots rather quickly. From hitting the power button, here's a
timeline:
0 - hit power button
18 - POST finishes
20 - LILO menu
44 - kernel almost completely loaded, waiting for dhcp address
61 - login prompt
So... 61 seconds to boot up. The first 20 are almost totally BIOS POST,
so nothing can help that, and the remaining 41 could be trimmed down a lot
if you don't have PCMCIA drivers, DHCPCD, sshd, other stuff loading.
Linux is supposed to suspend very well, but I haven't dug around for the
command to suspend... must be in the APM howto or something...
Anyway, my Linux is built from scratch, if you want to use a distro
you'll have to do some trimming to get rid of lots of startup junk,
but it can be done, and you can probably got comparable results
with a little tweaking. I'll probably hand-tailor a root partition
with a minimal kernel and startup scripts for my jukebox when I get
to that point...
If people are interested I'll post updates when I get the front-end
working. Feel free to email me if you want to discuss off-list.
Other options? QNX is supposed to be extremely lightweight and should
be possible to build SOME kind of MP3 player on it, maybe even mpg123.
It's also designed for realtime applications, so it might very well
handle MP3 playback smoother than Linux, but that's really a guess on
my part. Check out http://www.qnx.com if you're interested...
Good luck,
David
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 06:40:47AM -0700, Richard Harrison wrote:
> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 08:31:49 -0500
> From: "Richard Harrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject:
>
> Well my on going experiment of turning my Lib 50 into a jukebox continues.
>
> To date I've:
> overclocked the Libby to 100
> stripped down windows as lean as possible using Lite98
> installed a 13 gig hard drive
> replaced Explorer with LiteShell
> tried about 15 players to find one that wouldn't skip/stutter
>
> So, here are my remaining problems after spending two weeks on holidays with
> the Libby in the car.
>
> It still takes TOO LONG TO BOOT! it can take five minutes from pressing
> the
> power button until I start hearing tunes!
> Occasionally it would still stutter.
> Twice it shut down due to overheating.
> Using only WinAmp & directors is too difficult find songs with 12 gig out
> there.
> Using MusicLibary to manage songs slows things down and the interface has
> too much going on for the size of the Libby's screen.
>
> I admit I've got a pretty high standard I'm trying to hit, but I think it
> should be attainable. Essentially, I what the Libby to behave like an audio
> component. No one would accept a CD player that took five minutes to start
> up. No one would use a radio that skipped occasionally. All I want is
> perfection!
>
> Now I'm back to exploring other options. I'm convinced that the real
> villain it Windows, so I'm asking the list for other suggestions.
>
> Ideally, I thing I need an OS without a GUI so that I can get a quicker boot
> time. But, I still need a player that will handle the huge number of songs
> I have. So far, I've been looking for a DOS player, but can't find anything
> that will do more that play one song at a time or may be a sub directory at
> a time. Also, stopping to type in command line stuff isn't very safe in a
> moving car!
>
> I did find something for the GEM environment, but haven't had a chance to
> try it yet.
>
> Can anyone suggest a DOS player or a Linux console player?
>
> Can anyone make any other suggests?
>
> If this fails, I may just buy a hard drive based MP3 player (archos) and use
> the Libby for something else.
>
> Bye for now.
>
>
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