Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:13:37 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Format


>Why does everyone owning or interested in the glorious Toshiba Libretto
>have to suffer this newsgroup.

Suffer from what? This newsgroup is great!

BTW at this point, to avoid confusion I'll refer to THIS 'newsgroup' as the maillist 
and the concept of a PROPER newsgroup (where you use a news reader, log into a news 
server and so on) as a 'newsgroup'.


> Why can't we have our own proper
>newsgroup with  headers, message bodies, discussion lines and
>synchronise and don't. Am I missin' something?

Whats wrong with this maillist? I can download messages in Eudora with my normal mail 
(remember, more people use email than news), I can view then in webmail, I can sync 
them to my PDA if I so choose ... I can access them from everywhere through my 
cellphone (which is only 9600 yet is plenty fast enough to download the headers then 
the messages that I choose) ... plus at the end of x amount of time there is a digest 
produced on the web automagically.


>Perhaps a degree in setting up newsgroup's?

It ain't THAT hard ... surely ... although I dare say I'm not that familiar with 
newsgroups themselves ... besides which thats not the point, is there a need? 
Remember, proper newsgroups have a nasty habit of getting spammed because its a LOT 
easier for the less ethical to use a newsgroup crawler than it is for them to roam the 
web looking for email addresses that *might* be a maillist, subscribe to them 
correctly so they can send, then start spamming. A maillist is only slightly more 
obscure than a newsgroup but IMHO a lot more robust against abuse. Besides which you 
don't need to sync across servers.


>I KNOW [do italics exist in outlook express] one can suspend
>subscription by having different accounts. I know one can organise
>message bodies into subfolders by use of filtering and the new [LIB]
>thingy but for god [not your god, my god] sake it's the 21st century.

Italics do exist in OE but don't use them as they become OE specific (and besides 
which most formatting codes often don't survive resends). Whats wrong with maillists 
in the 21st century anyway? If you find a good thing, stick with it. At least until 
something better comes out (and 'real' newsgroups aren't one of them for a situation 
like this).


>I am going to be using a 10 000 baud satellite phone for the next two
>years. I'll be saying a tearful goodbye if the song remains the same.

Eh? Now you've really lost me. This list is quite useable over a 9600 baud link, 
certainly just as useable and probably faster than if you had to make a separate 
connection to a news server and negotiate with that in addition to your email server.


>Surely Raymond, you of all people, can create a brighter future.

Umm ... ya but you know what? You've thoroughly lost me! Perhaps you might wish to 
explain EXACTLY what the problem is ... I'm of the opinion you prefer having a proper 
newsgroup, distributed to the various news servers, instead of this maillist right?

Of course, it could also be that I've just woken up and my brain is having trouble 
ticking over in which case gimme a hand and explain it again anyway ;-)


- Raymond

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