Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:23:59 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Hard Disk Issue - HDC error

At 05:08 PM 12/11/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 01:05:18 -0000
>From: "Alexander Dyke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Hard Disk Issue - HDC error
>
>Hi
>
>I've been reading the postings and hopefully someone will be able
>
>
>Problem
>=======
>
>I just turned on my Libby 100 to be confronted with the message "HDC error, Insert 
>System Disk".

Ouch!



>I was able to boot from floppy, but FDISK does not recognise any fixed disks

Not good ... bear in mind just because it says "HDC error" doesn't necessarily mean 
the controller is dead, it could well be the libby can't make a head or tail of what 
the HDC is telling it (which could be caused by anything inputting into the HDC).


>Swapped HD to another one,  able to boot with floppy, formatted replacement HD. 
>Rebooted a couple of times (set active partition & to set up parallel port for 
>laplink) using the floppy disk. But now the replacement disk has the same error 
>message

I actually had a similar issue with the KEYBOARD controller of my Toshiba Tecra 500CT 
(actually at the time it wasn't mine but it got written off because of that issue so 
now its mine ;-) ... every now and again it'll come back but it'll stay dead with 
almost exactly the same error "KBC error, press F1 to continue" (which is pretty darn 
absurd if you ask me). Except in this case I think I know what the issue was, I 
suspect we may have zapped the PS/2 port (because whatever happens, we can't get a 
PS/2 mouse working be it plugged directly into the laptop, into the dockstation or 
whatever). PS/2 external keyboard always works though :-/


>Can the Hard Disk controller (which I assume is the nature of the error) replaceable?

In the libby I don't think so, especially since its probably integrated into other 
things. Even in a desktop it generally isn't (I've had a fried primary IDE controller 
in my computer for a while but its all integrated with a pile of other stuff so I 
can't fix it, I ended up using an expansion card).


>Will this have damaged either of the HDs?

Well seeing as putting another HDD into it temporarily resolved the issue, I wouldn't 
discount the possibility. I would however suspect that perhaps the nature of the 
problem may be more a power issue than anything else - if it was a controller issue 
then I doubt putting a second hard drive in would fix the issue where if the power was 
being weird it could take its time killing the hard drive so to speak. When you swap 
the original drive back in what happens? If you're good with electronics (or brave!) 
you might want to run the libby's motherboard (without the case but with the screen 
andthe HDD attached) and see if your voltage rails are stable, especially at the HDD 
end. Whilst you're at it, go through the board with a magnifying glass and a 
static-free brush (you can pick one up for a few dollars at your local electronics 
store, DON'T use a paintbrush or you'll zap something!) and give the boards a good 
clean ... perhaps a meal that you've shared with your libby has bridged a gap 
somewhere (if you didn't get the comment, read Perry's post a while back :-).


>Can I install the HD into a desktop PC to check them? - (if so can someone advise me 
>on cables / voltage issues)

You can pick up adapters that'll let you plug a laptop hard drive into a desktop for 
no more than about $20USD or so. They should pick up as normal IDE hard drives if all 
is well.


>P.S You really don't know what you've got until you lose it :-(

Hehe know the feeling .... good luck!


Anyway those are my thoughts on the issue ... if anyone sees any errors/problems with 
what I've written do make comment!


- Raymond

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