Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:20:53 -0800 (PST)
From: David Chien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Works! - HP M820E & Ricoh MP8040SE 4x4x20 CD-RW under DOS w/ Full

> I found the requirements for the HP M820E:
> 
> http://www.hp.com/cposupport/information_storage/support_doc/lpg40961.html
> 
> ...and they're saying you need a CPU of at least 133MHz.  That would seem to 
> put the stock L50's P75 out of the running here.  I wonder if my stock L70 
> with a P120 has enough to handle it without overclocking.

  You can get away with slower PCs just fine if you burn at slower speeds and
have nothing else running.  You may need to create an intermediate ISO file
that you burn instead of on-the-fly, but the HP/Ricoh will work on the slower
models for CD burning.

  CD reading? It doesn't matter how slow your PC is, it will always work.

  Had a 4x Yamaha 100 SCSI drive running off 100Mhz PCs years ago under Win95,
so you should be fine with the HP/Ricoh even on the L50 at 2x.

> These drives are 4x write and re-write... which make them workable for a 
> <400MHz CPU.  I see where a >400MHz CPU is required for the 8x 
> write/re-write drives just to be able to write the data to disk at the 8x 
> data transfer rates.

  The big difference in faster, modern CD-RW drives is the BurnProof/JustLink
feature which prevents coasters (bad burns) even when the data stream stops
completely for seconds/minutes until the HD can catch up.

  The HP/Ricoh has a generous 2MB buffer, but that'll only prevent coasters for
a few seconds if data stream is interrupted.

  Thus, the newer drives can successfully burn at any speed regardless of PC
speed; older ones depend more heavily on CPU speed.  

> >   Anyone have a L50/70 and can say what it needs to see the PCMCIA slot 
> >under DOS?  (probably somewhere in the archives, too....)
> 
> Are you saying that if you find a set of drivers that enables a L50/70 to 
> see ANY PCMCIA device in DOS, the same drivers will see ALL PCMCIA devices?  
> If this is so, and someone has these files, I'd like to experiment with 
> them.  If this is true, I should be able to see my CF card files in its 
> PCMCIA adaptor in DOS.... yes?

  Yes.  Anything that that version of the CS drivers support.  Natually, older
CS drivers won't support the latest strange PCMCIA cards out, but they will
certainly support as many of the older cards you will generally use.

> Can I equate "card & socket drivers" = "C&S driver" = "CS driver".  And that 
> "CardSoft" is not= "CS".  And I'm not sure what "CardSoft" and "CardWizard" 
> mean, and what the distinction between them may be.  All new terms and 
> concepts to me.

  Yes.  
  CardSoft is the DOS version of one available CS drive.
  CardWizard is the Windows version, some of which also install the DOS
drivers, but not the latest versions.

> >As I recall, even the L50 or L70 web pages in Japanese showed a Libretto 
> >CD-ROM drive being sold by Toshiba as an accessory.
> 
> Huh... have you seen the EXP Traveler 2020?
> 
> It's a pretty clunky beast, but it's been working pretty well.  Wonder if 
> it's the same drive.

Nope.
Here's a few they've released in Japan that'll work with the Libertto.
PA2673UJ
PA2671UJ
PADR002(CD-RW)

Tried to find some pics, but guess I'll have to go back to my Libretto
Information CD archives.  Smaller, more compact drive.

> >   Only tick is that it needs older 1-4x CD-RW discs, mine can't burn/erase 
> >some newer 4x-10x discs.
> 
> Oh man... hmmm... Does that mean it needs 4x CD-R disks too?  Seems the 

  No.

> unless your're talking only about CD-RW re-writable disks, and that there's 
> something peculiar to them as opposed to the CD-R disks.  I sure wouldn't be 

  Yep. Differently tuned burn energy levels and IDs.

> burning a lot of them with the Libby.  A stack of 50 or 100 4x disks from 
> EBay may be plenty to last.

  for CD-RWs, yep.
  for CD-Rs, nope.  go through these like tissue paper.

  see www.musiccity.com and get Morpheus and you'll see how fast CD-Rs go...
  ..all the latest movies?
  ..all the latest albums?
  ..all the latest anything?

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