Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 08:28:35 +0700
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Win2K installs on 100/110s

> How large is that directory?  My Win2K CD is at home, not here...

Don't know - have CD, have no CD drive!
But I know the entire CD was 490MB when copied to a desktop HDD.

> So the floppy drivers with Win2K will work?

Absolutely - EVERYTHING autodetected 1st time and EVERYTHING worked,
including my combo card and network/Internet connections.

AFAIK the floppy won't work with Win'2K without the BIOS 8.1 upgrade
(no kidding) but I wasn't inclined to verify that first hand.

> DOS boot floppy created from Win98?

I used my existing Win'98 emergency/recovery boot disk

>> - CD to HDD copy (in a desktop)
>
> Since I have the CardSoft Card Socket Services, I was actually just going
> to use them to xfer the files from a CompactFlash card after booting to
> DOS.

Groovy!
Now I know why you want the WINNT directory size...

>> - Win'2K install
>> - create partitions beyond 8GB *
>> - Win'2K service packs
>> - IE6
>
> Ewwww, IE6.  No thanks.  IE5.5SP2 and Communicator4.79 only ;-)

I'm using IE6 a lot, am having (and have had) no problems at all.
In my case, Win'2K+IE6 is a lot better than Win'98+IE5.5

>> * including reserving the "hardware (BIOS) hibernate" space
>> I'm not using any disk/overlay managers or anything like that.
>
> How much space, where?  Just create the 8Gig, then leave about 1-200
> Megs after that

What I suggest is either:-

(1)

-- create first partition(s) from DOS boot disk, maximum available
-- install Win'2K
-- create 78MB partition (71MB proved too small on my L110/64MB RAM)
-- do as you wish with the remainder

or (2)

-- create first partition(s) from DOS boot disk, and on the last partition,
select size one "step" below the maximum available (so approx 8GB if you go
for a single partition, less 7 MB)
-- install Win'2K
-- create 7MB "buffer" partition (7MB FAT16 is smallest partition possible)
-- create 78MB partition (71MB proved too small on my L110/64MB RAM)
-- create another 7MB "buffer" partition
-- do as you wish with the remainder

I guess that if you opt to have a 7MB buffer before the 78MB, it doesn't
matter if you create it before installing Win'2K (ie from DOS) or after.

NB(1) -- the 7MB partition(s) must be FAT16 (too small for FAT32)
NB(2) -- the 78MB partition size was determined with a fair bit of testing
and verifying - it may not have been especially elegant, but AFAIK the end
result was definitive. Certainly on my setup, the next available size down
(71MB) definitely ended too soon, and the following buffer partition would
get trashed (ie not just corruption of data, it would need a complete
re-format).

I have a hunch that the BIOS hibernate dumps the data "backwards" - ie it
starts at the point the BIOS sees as the end of the drive (NOT the real end,
out at 30GB, obviously; and NOT the "phoney" end that the BIOS reports in
order to reserve the hibernation space). It then writes towards the
beginning.

So if your hibernation zone ends too soon (too small and/or too far
forwards), the partition AFTER that *WILL* get trashed (because the file
system data for that partition is right in the firing line). If your
partition starts too late (too small and/or too far back), it could be a
very long time before you see any symptoms.

So even when I figured I'd got the whole thing sorted, I thought the 7MB
buffer AFTER the hibernation zone was still A Very Good Idea Indeed (TM)

However, it's just my personal theory based on a lot of deduction and
speculation and trial and error. I've read nothing that confirms (or rebuts)
any of this.

> (formatted or not?)

I did. Then I filled the 7 & 78MB partitions with .JPGs (ie leaving zero
free KB) so I could see (literally) what got overwritten (and what did not)
when I booted to a DOS prompt and hibernated (ie simulated a "hardware" BIOS
hibernate).

> then the rest partitioned however I wish?

Only if you upgrade the BIOS to 8.1 before you do anything else!  ;-)

> I had forgotten that I don't need to worry about an overlay with Win2K,
> so I guess I could use any 40Gig.  Is IBM or Toshiba better?
> They cost about the same.

Mine is a 30GB Fujitsu.
I'd definitely get an IBM in preference to a Toshiba - from virtually
everything I've ever read, and because my OE Toshiba failed after less than
6 months (I know the latter reasoning alone is not entirely logical/rational
but for me it reinforced the former dramatically).

AFAIK the IBM has a 3 year warranty.

>>> What is the recommended BIOS level for Win2K on a 110?
>>
>> 8.1 compulsory, mandatory, nothing else will do; do it before anything
>> else (ie do it on your existing setup)
>
> OK, OK, I take the hint, I'll update the BIOS first ;-)

Do it NOW! Mail me back when it's done!  ;-)




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