Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 13:46:15 -0400
From: "Lou S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] SPAM ugh...

Hi Matthew

>But are you  saying that you are getting spam with [LIB] in the subject?

No, not at all, I said that when I use the word [LIB] as a filter for my 
Subject lne - ALL spam ceases to get into my mailbox, it's deleted at 
Hotmail's server. I also have one other filter that only members of a hobby 
club I correspond with use, that makes it impossible to receive any spam in 
my mailbox. Spammers are not going to selectively word the Subject line of 
each spam they send out even if they knew the words you filter on. If 
everyone would simply remember that all spammers are thieves and liars w/o 
exception, no one would ever reply to their email to begin with and they'd 
all have to get real jobs instead of stealing from the public. But we do 
have a few individuals in our society that aren't too bright and actually 
reply to spammers and even send them money - which they lose - all spammer 
are thieves, the rest of us filter our email.

>>"If you use Norton Internet Security or AtGuard, one way to block these 
>>things
>>is to setup the adblocker to block anything with the string 
>>www.atlantistech.com
>>that blocks the script that makes your brwoser send an e-mail."
>
>Very, very interesting Lou!  I suspected this sort of thing was going on.
>But you're saying it's when you have Java activated, right?
>
>Matt

Java has been called the culprit of a lot of browser problems for yrs. I use 
IE 5, Netscape 3 and 4.7 and Opera 4 on my PC at the same time. Each one 
acts differently and they all crash on occasion when Java is enabled. Opera 
seems to handle it the best and it loads Web pages super fast compared to IE 
which is pathetically sloooooooooooow. I usually disable Java in Netscape 
which has my real ISP email address in it, run Java on IE and have found 
Opera runs a bit funky w/Java. Sometimes Web site acknowledge it, other 
times they balk and say it's not operational even though I have it enabled. 
But I NEVER get popups with Opera! My IE has only a fake address placed in 
it since I never email with it, so IF Java were the culprit here (I'm told 
that it is on occasion), the browser wouldn't send my real email address out 
anyway. Search the Net, there are lots of posts and info concerning security 
flaws in IE with Java enabled. That's why Micro$oft keeps offering patches 
for their browser.

One catch with some email was that the sender would place a code in his 
email to tell your browser to go to his Web site and download a Gif. Once it 
did it also confirmed that the code, unique to you, was used and he now 
knows the email address he sent that code to is active. when I get email 
from a Yahoo group I subscribe to, I only read it off line which eliminates 
all the ads their email tells your browser to fetch once you open the email 
if you're online.

Again, if the Lib group's moderator/owner were to eliminate "all" of our 
email addresses from showing up in our posts (like mine did in your reply to 
me Matt), spam would drop off and even be nonexistant for new email accounts 
since no one would ever have access to those email addresses. An ounce of 
prevention...or we need to keep useing throw away accounts like Hotmail for 
posting to the Net. - Lou S

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