Date: 03 Apr 2003 12:47:00 -0500
From: terry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Battery Life

Hi John,


On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 11:27, John Musielewicz wrote:

> Heh- but is that because the chip uses more power or the battery has more
> juice!?! Plus software emulation is slow.
Some of them seem to be the same size and shape, which probably means 
the same size batteries.

> >
> > It's really tough to revisit old computer technology.  The
> 
> This is what I don't understand about mobile technology now-a-days. Who uses
> it? 
I don't know, but from limited observation, most mobile users seem to
want their 'stuff' with them more than anything, and aren't particularly
focused on running on a battery for long periods.

> What good is the latest machine with all the little bells if the battery
> is dead and it can't be used? When people comment on 'old' technology just
> what do they mean? 
Hardware that reasonably supported what is now obsolete software?

> (Which is why I'm using
> 'old' technology today- it is as good as new technology- in most respects).
You won't get much of an argument from me on that score!  I run 2-450mhz
and a 1ghz desktop systems - not one of the latest 2.4mhz systems - but
then I use Win98se (under Linux of course).  I did upgrade my 50CT to a
70CT however.  And when I'm doing technical writing I use Word 2.0c, and
convert it into a later version to send it off.  (I also have a '80 Fiat
Spyder, a '80 BMW M/C, and a '68 Suzuki 500 2-stroke - and I live in a
100 year old house!)

As for battery life, I don't think that there has been as much of a
technology increase as the need has been increased by hardware and
software.  I was just saying that if battery life reaches a level of
pain, then there is little else to do but buy new -or- downgrade to a
70CT since it has longer battery life than the 100/110.  That's the
reason I've stayed with the 70.  I have seen close to 6 hours on the
high-capacity battery while reading documentation.

Cheers,

terry



> 
> >
> > On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 09:23, John Musielewicz wrote:
> > > Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 08:17:14 -0600
> > > From: "John Musielewicz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: Re: [LIB] Battery Life
> > >
> > > Hi Terry
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "terry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 7:17 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [LIB] Battery Life
> > >
> > >
> > > > Date: 03 Apr 2003 08:17:49 -0500
> > > > From: terry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Subject: Re: [LIB] Battery Life
> > > >
> > > > Hi John,
> > > >
> > > > I don't remember, but you can look it up at fujitsupc.com - look for
> > > > tablet pc's.  They do something interesting by using the CD drive bay
> as
> > > > a place to put another battery.  The 12 hours is by using a long-life
> > > > regular battery with the drive bay battery.  I would
> > >
> > > Hmmm...I could do the same by picking up an Igo external battery, I
> guess,
> > > they would run a 110 a good 16 hours. But I hate doing that because it
> ruins
> > > the portability of the system. The perfect thing about the 110 is its
> the
> > > perfect size- small enough to pack around with a bunch of pcmcia cards
> yet
> > > large enough to easily use!! It has everything a person needs, a nice
> large
> > > color screen, 2 cardbus ports, a very large keyboard, irda, and a
> docking
> > > port. Through the cardbus ports you have usb, wireless, serial and
> parallel
> > > connectivity- whatever a person wants plus if you add a dock you can
> always
> > > just use the Libretto as the central cpu and hook up external stuff for
> the
> > > desktop.
> > >
> > > guess that you
> > > > would have to go with a Transmeta based system to get extreamely long
> > > > battery life.  Libretto has too.  The 233/266 Pentiums were small
> > > > furnaces compared with earlier and later processors.  I may have
> > > > exagerated the size increase - it was just a WAG.
> > >
> > > I have read the Transmeta cpu isn't that low powered. I have seen side
> by
> > > side comparisons to Tiwanese Intel cpu clones and the Tiwanese beat the
> > > Transmeta hands down. But anyway, what would be wrong about using modern
> day
> > > technology to improve the US Libretto into a power miser and
> reintroducing
> > > it? If it got 14-16 hours on a single charge on a 2000 or 2400 mAh
> single
> > > battery under heavy use, had a 233-300 MHz Intel pentium cpu, more ram
> (ram
> > > could be added without affecting battery life that much), and the same
> > > footprint as the 110CT it would be a hot little machine!! I, for one,
> would
> > > snap a machine like that up!
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I only use my Libretto 70 for 3-4 hours on the battery, and it's been
> > > > great.  But I don't depend on it for anything other than recording
> notes
> > > > and editing programs.  I have noticed that my new 10g hard drive
> > > > increased battery life also.
> > >
> > > My 110CT is my only computer so I use it for everything (ooopps, low
> > > battery- time to connect AC- sucks!!) and it does the job quite well!!!
> Who
> > > made the 10 gig drive? My 15 gig was made by IBM and is also quite low
> > > power. XP also controls power really well except there is no backlight
> > > control. I've been meaning to write a windows driver for the backlight
> for
> > > XP but haven't gotten around to it yet. Been to busy in Dos writing all
> the
> > > stuff it needs!!
> > >
> > > >
> > > > terry
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 01:35, John Musielewicz wrote:
> > > > > Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 00:26:53 -0600
> > > > > From: "John Musielewicz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [LIB] Battery Life
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Terry
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the suggestion. 10% larger is too large. Just out of
> > > curiousity
> > > > > what is the milliamps of the battery which gives the longest life?
> > > > >
> > > > > John
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "terry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 4:33 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [LIB] Battery Life
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Date: 02 Apr 2003 17:33:18 -0500
> > > > > > From: terry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [LIB] Battery Life
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Take a look at the Fujitsu LifeBook P1000,2000.  About 10% bigger,
> > > > > > Transmeta 800+ processors, and 8 - 12 hours on batteries in
> various
> > > > > > configurations - with your choice of windoze versions.  Sorry it's
> not
> > > a
> > > > > > Libretto tho :>(  Also, the prices aren't real bad $1200 - $1500
> USD.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > terry
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, 2003-04-02 at 14:43, John Musielewicz wrote:
> > > > > > > Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 13:38:25 -0600
> > > > > > > From: "John Musielewicz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > Subject: Battery Life
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I love my little 110CT. It is such a cool machine. It zips along
> XP,
> > > > > runs my
> > > > > > > programs super fast with its speedy little 233 MHz pentium mmx
> and
> > > > > wopping
> > > > > > > 64 meg of ram. The size is absolutely perfect and the screen
> surburb
> > > for
> > > > > > > reading ebooks. However, there is one thing that bugs me. At 4
> hours
> > > the
> > > > > > > battery life is just too short!! I need about 8 to 10 hours.
> There
> > > is
> > > > > not a
> > > > > > > notebook that compares to the 110CT out there with the kind of
> > > battery
> > > > > life
> > > > > > > I need except the Hewlett Packard 200LX and that, being a XT and
> too
> > > > > small,
> > > > > > > would not be useable. Why are there no improvements being made
> to
> > > the
> > > > > > > Libretto series? All they need to do is improve battery life
> which
> > > > > shouldn't
> > > > > > > be to hard with the speed of the processor.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > John
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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