Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 23:07:26 -0800 From: PhotoEngineering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] CPU Motherboard
George
Running a Pentium-M at 600 is no problem. I looked more closely at the specs on it and it'll run at 200MHz all the way to the max of the cpu that is being used. So that is how it'll be set up in the bios. I'm thinking of designing for the 1.4GHz MPU. Personally I don't want to get rid of my Libretto and considering the case, screen, mouse, and keyboard work just fine for me its just a matter of a cpu board. The pinouts, voltages and speeds of the display and keyboard are widely known; Pentium M motherboards are already availible in just a little larger size than the one we use so it seems its just a matter of making one to the right size and supplying the correct feed for the display and keyboard. The display cable socket may be kind of a beast to obtain but I don't think so. Plus the greatest adavantage with the Libretto is Toshiba supplied a really good heat sink for the cpu!! So--I'm looking into it and getting prices. It won't have all the bells like wireless nw and accelerated video and all the destop junk but it'll work and with a 1.4GHz socktable cpu and standard dram I would think you'd be passing your Libretto on to your kids!! I'll bet it'll even have a good battery life!!
John [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 09:18 AM 11/5/2003, you wrote:
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 17:12:38 +0000 From: "GEORGES PITROPAKIS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] CPU Motherboard
Hello John,
Many of us (I think) see the day they will stop using their libretto as a dark one. If one could make it run at 600 mhz it would give it a second life with new applications possible.
I would hear that as a miracle actually. Let us know.
Thanks George
From: PhotoEngineering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] CPU Motherboard Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:54:48 -0700
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:10:28 -0800 From: PhotoEngineering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] CPU Motherboard
Anyway, as of now I really can't produce even initial specs although what I am thinking is a max cpu speed of 1.4GHz adjustable down to 600MHz (I believe the P-M can do that not sure about the P4), System bus around 200-400MHz, Memory- whatever module you pick, video ram- either a minimum of 8 meg on board or it would be designed to use system ram. The system, memory, ata, sata, pcmcia controller would probably be a PGA system so completely upgradable. I think as far as price--a person could expect to pay about 300 for the board (just guessing here but about 3-5 times what a desktop motherboard runs.), 250 for cpu, 100 for 1 gig memory module . Price really depends on what ICs and bios used. Battery life--should be about the same as you have now -3-4 hours. Might even be a little better.
John [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 04:38 AM 11/5/2003, you wrote:Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:32:18 +0100 (CET) From: "Wouter Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] CPU Motherboard
John,
Sounds good! However I too think 200 will be a big challenge and of course this is heavily dependant on costs.
I love my little Libretto, but sometimes wish it was a little faster and had USB on board (still can't get my USB2.0 pccard to work).
Please keep us updated!
Regards, Wouter
fjve said: > Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 11:18:15 +0100 > From: fjve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [LIB] CPU Motherboard > > Same for me and my L110 too: interested in price and specs > > Especially the Socketable cpu;standard memory module;heat > seems quite challenging given the small space available > > Are there any numbers available how many Libretto's are still around? > > Frans Verhaag > > GEORGES PITROPAKIS wrote: >> >> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 09:43:59 +0000 >> From: "GEORGES PITROPAKIS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: RE: [LIB] CPU Motherboard >> >> The same thing for me : I would like to know more about the price and >> specs. >> I wish you could find 200 persons interested but it seems quite >> challenging >> to me. >> Thanks for your efforts anyway. >> >> >From: "Steven Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >Reply-To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >Subject: RE: [LIB] CPU Motherboard >> >Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 02:32:47 -0700 >> > >> >Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:24:40 -0000 >> >From: "Steven Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >Subject: RE: [LIB] CPU Motherboard >> > >> >I could be interested too, would like to see proposed pictures board >> layout >> >out and specs thought >> > >> >Steven Knight >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: PhotoEngineering [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >Sent: 05 November 2003 00:55 >> >To: Libretto >> >Subject: [LIB] CPU Motherboard >> > >> > >> >Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 04:39:17 -0800 >> >From: PhotoEngineering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >Subject: CPU Motherboard >> > >> >I have an opportunity to develop a x86 mainboard. I can make it the >> correct >> >form factor and with keyboard, sound, sdram, video, cardbus pcmcia, >> eide >> >(and sata), battery; either pci, isa and 2 usb 2.0 or straight usb >> 2.0 >> >bus plus acpi support to fit the L-series. It would also have line in, >> line >> >out, plus analog video in and out . It would have a socketable cpu so a >> >mobile p-4 or M would be dropped in. What it would not have is the >> docking >> >port, IRDA, or wireless network. You'd have to do those yourself if you >> >wanted them. They would be quite expensive and a person would have to >> >supply his own cpu which will run an additional 250-300. Chances are >> the >> >dram won't be on the board either so you'd have to supply a memory >> module >> >too. But it'd be a standard sodimm or dimm. What I'm curious about is >> if >> >there is enough interest to offer some of these up for sale as a >> Libretto >> >mainboard replacement. 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