Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:10:37 +0100
From: "Jon DuQueno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] Libretto 70CT - mp3 player choppy / memory usage / which 
windows


>Argg... Did you end up installing the 70CT sound drivers after W98SE
loaded?

Yes I installed them to see if it would help with MP3 playing (didn't make
any difference), I had to change the audio settings in doom 2 to get sound
working again. Seems to have cured the problem with sound dying while
playing doom 2 :) 

Anyhow who needs Doom when you can have Duke Nukem 3D :P


>I used to customize W98SE setup, but only added a few things like System 
>Monitor and Character Map.  But it's so darned easy to add them later that
>I  gave up doing it during OS installation.  That, as no matter how many
>times I've done it before, it seems inevitable that it'll take 2-3-4
>attempts to get Windows set up properly. [EMAIL PROTECTED]  That's why David 
>keeps
>recommending making an image (Ghost et al) after you get an OS installed
>and tweaked.

I'm going to play around with this install to see what works well and what
doesn't. Then I'll probably try a fresh install maybe using Win98Lite. Then
I might try making an image. How do you make image, do you mean Norton
Ghost?


>>Think I saw some XP style task / memory
>>manager (some Russian app?) online somewhere? might show what processes
>>are using the memory up.
>You could try downloading a little utility I use a lot to check W98 for 
>running apps that the W98SE 'Task Manger' doesn't. It's called TaskInfo2002

Found that Russian program "Amn Task Manager" www.amn.ru. Haven't tried
installing it yet, anyone used it?


>Do you have your Virtual Memory set to let Windows manage the settings?  
>I've tried tweaking things manually a lot in the past, and have always 
>returned to having Windows manage it.
>And you didn't load any kind of antivirus, firewall, or other resource 
>hungry app that may be hiding?

Virtual memory is windows managed. Haven't installed virus checker or
firewall yet. Any virus checker recommendations? 


Anyone know any good benchmark / system info software?



Jon D





-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Hanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 21 October 2005 04:01
To: Libretto
Subject: RE: [LIB] Libretto 70CT - mp3 player choppy / memory usage / which
windows

Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 02:59:46 +0000
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] Libretto 70CT - mp3 player choppy / memory usage / which
windows
 components

>From: "Jon DuQueno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Maybe it's some unnecessary windows component using up memory? I selected
>typical install not laptop/portable, I wanted a bunch of stuff that wasn't
>in laptop default components. When I was installing it looked like the
>laptop/portable option was just to save disk space not CPU & memory?

I used to customize W98SE setup, but only added a few things like System 
Monitor and Character Map.  But it's so darned easy to add them later that I

gave up doing it during OS installation.  That, as no matter how many times 
I've done it before, it seems inevitable that it'll take 2-3-4 attempts to 
get Windows set up properly. [EMAIL PROTECTED]  That's why David keeps 
recommending 
making an image (Ghost et al) after you get an OS installed and tweaked.

>I'll have a play with it later. Think I saw some XP style task / memory
>manager (some Russian app?) online somewhere? might show what processes are
>using the memory up.

I don't understand why you're seeing 10% CPU in SM, and me 100%

> >You didn't mention anything about sound in DOS for Doom.  Did that in 
>fact
> >work for you?
>
>Yes doom 2 worked fine without any sound driver, although I've had the 
>sound
>die a couple of times mid game.

Argg... Did you end up installing the 70CT sound drivers after W98SE loaded?

>I just copied the folder straight from
>backup of an old machine. Maybe it was because the sound config was already
>setup for my old machine and worked the same? Or doom 2 uses updated sound
>component?

I have no ideas there. I think I only installed Doom 1.

> >Is that with no apps running?  I'm not quite sure what you've got System
> >Monitor set to, but with 'Add Item > Kernal > Processor Usage (%)' set on
> >my 70, and nothing running. I'm getting a green line that is maxed at 
>100%.
> >It seems to stay there when I run apps too.  I don't see a setting in SM
> >specifically for idle CPU usage.
>
>Yes 'Add Item > Kernal > Processor Usage (%)', Just checked again still 
>only
>10% when idle (just a bumpy red line along the bottom on mine).

Something's not right there.

>'Memory
>Manager->Allocated Memory' is 36.6MB, 'Swapfile in use' is 0 MB and 'unused
>physical memory' is 2.6MB ish.

I wonder if your W98SE Virtual Memory is handling your swapfile poorly.  
With nothing running, System Monitor on my 70 shows 2.6M of the swapfile in 
use.  And the current size of the swapfile to be 29MB.

Do you have your Virtual Memory set to let Windows manage the settings?  
I've tried teaking things manually a lot in the past, and have always 
returned to having Windows manage it.

>Strange that yours reads 100%, maybe some
>background app eating up spare CPU cycles.

And you didn't load any kind of antivirus, firewall, or other resource 
hungry app that may be hiding?

You could try downloading a little utility I use a lot to check W98 for 
running apps that the W98SE 'Task Manger' doesn't. It's called TaskInfo2002.

  It helped me spot a hidden .exe for some virus I managed to pick up some 
time back.  I use it a lot now.  I type the names of running components (is 
that the right term??) in Google to find out it they're inherent to W98SE or

not.

> >With nothing running, SM shows about 5Mb unused physical memory on my 70.
> >I'll admit, I'm not sure what that represents.  When I open Eudora, that
> >drops to near zero.  Starting Winamp, it stays at zero.  But closing 
>Winamp
> >causes it to pop up to 3.7Mb.  Then closing Eudora pushes it up to 8.8Mb.
>
>When computer runs out of physical memory it starts using the 'swapfile'
>(virtual memory on the hard drive) which is much slower.

Actually... it seems that's exactly what the swapfile is for... to >speed 
up< things due to limited physical memory... isn't it?  The folks over at 
the Compuserve WUGNET forums could answer that.  You may want to post your 
problem over there.  I'd have a go at reinstalling W98SE again 1st though.

>Looks like I may
>have some extra windows components eating up some memory, don't think they
>all show in crappy 98 task manager.

See TaskInfo2000 above.

>How may colours do you run windows in,
>I'm currently using 16 bit in windows and 222K in bios.

Yeah... I'm set to 16 bit, 640x480, and 222k in BIOS too.

Matt

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