Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 02:19:19 +0000
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] Lib slow loading WWW content w/broadband

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Great overview of what's going on with these old systems trying to process all the data thrown at them John.


From: John Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

You
CAN open a 27,000 page document with Word in Windows (because I have done
it several times) but it really lags a lot and eventually crashes on the
Pentium 1's.

Ah yes... remember the experience with all the fond associated angst... 8-O

I don't mean to sound so harsh to Windows and IE or other modern programs,
but I learned to program back in the days of the Z80, Commodore 16's, 64's
and Vic 20's Tandy's etc.  It is amazing how "big" everything has gotten.
 Compare the game F19 Stealth Fighter which was written for a Commodore 64
originally. 64K, yeah.  The PC version was around 400K.

And when you got a newer PC, old programs written in machine code would >scream!<

That is what I
mean.  There isn't much optimizing these days as there isn't much reason
most of the time.  If most people have Pentium 3's and 4's with a Gig of
ram, most programmers are going to target those systems.  You don't always
need a faster computer, just a better program and or OS. ;)

There are new programs that look like they're written in Visual Basic that just bug the heck out of me. I can always spot them by the web style appearance of the standard MS menus that have a less defined, less crisp look to them... eg: File, Edit, View, Help menus and submenus. Those programs, Firefox for one, are usually resource suckers. I tend to dump the idea of testing them until I've run out of alternatives that might work better in their place.

Another thing I noticed was a 50+ meg drop in physical memory per IE
browser opened with eBay.  That tells you how much the processor is dealing
with.

Ouch...

Another indicator the slowdown is processor/system based is that I notice
even slight choppiness (no freezes though) now with these same sites at the
same points with a Pentium 2 machine.   This is with Windows 98SE, 512Meg
of ram, one browser window open and over 350 meg of RAM free, No virtual
memory in use AND this particular machine boots with 95% Resources Free.
 (I think even my Libretto is at like 78% free after boot)  Pretty cut and
dried to me.

Why no virtual memory John? I've always found Windows to be at it's peak when it manages it's own virtual memory. Case in point has been when I ran my free HDD space down to 125MB, and this Margi DVD-To-Go card started stuttering. It really seems to need that virtual memory.

Matt

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