Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 16:42:05 -0800
From: John Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] John Martin

Hello Joseph...

I apologize for not responding to your message.  I was unable to respond 
within a day, and someone else copied and pasted my original post of 
Libretto Large Hard Drive installation and I thought that would be enough. 
 Sorry about that.

I will answer your questions as best I can...

Question 1:  Yes, one method you could use is to copy the Win98 CD files to 
your hard drive (I put mine in C:\WINCD for instance) and install it from 
the hard drive once the formatted drive is inside the libretto.

Question 2:  I install Win98 on the C: drive all default. (e.g. C:\Windows) 
 This reduces complications with programs that do not work correctly with 
alternate installation directories or drives.

Question3:  I don't completely understand this question, but believe yes. 
 I decide what to install into my C: Drive based on the 8 gig limitation 
and keep all else on the D: drive.

Question 4:  Yes, you must have an area where the Libretto can write its 
hibernation data.  There are alternate methods, but I chose to format the 
drive with three partitions of 8.X Gig, (defined by the Libretto BIOS), 
150meg (just to be safe) and then the rest of the drive in the third 
partition.  Before installation into the Libretto I delete the middle 
partition and I am left with C: (being 8.X gig defined by the Libretto 
BIOS) and D: being the remainder of the drive.

Hope this helps.  I am going to paste in my original post here for 
reference.

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Because I learned about how to work around this hibernation area from this 
system and so many helpful Libretto users, I will share my preferred method 
of formatting drives around the hibernation area on Libretto 100 and 
110CT's.  I have done this for others many times now.

The methods seems SO complicated compared to just formatting a hard drive, 
but trust me, these guys know what they are talking about.  It is 
necessary.  After a LOT of experimentation I only have a lot of respect for 
most everyone who offered me (and many others) ideas on how to work around 
this hard drive hibernation area on Libretto's.

Here is the method I use.  It requires a second computer with bios ability 
to see beyond the Libretto's.  Most any Pentium 2 Class and up is a sure 
thing.) I use an adapter to plug the 2.5" drives into the full size EIDE 
cable of the second computer.
I have used this method many times now with my two Libretto's (100CT and 
110CT) so I don't know about any other models.  I have also done this more 
than a dozen times now for others Libretto's.


1.  First I use fdisk to set up the drive to its maximum size INSIDE the 
Libretto.  It will be "about" 8Gig"
This to me is the most logical step because any "issues" with the Libretto 
bios become irrelevant because the bios in question IS making the 
partition.  No figuring out where to leave a hibernation hole etc.

2.  Then I remove the drive from the Libretto and install the adapter and 
place it into the second computer as a secondary drive.

3.  I normally use Western Digital Lifeguard Tools usually, but other 
programs for setting up drives will probably work fine.  I use this 
software to set up the remaining space on the drive into two partitions. 
 The first partition I just set up as 100 meg or so.  The second partition 
I set up as the rest of the drive.

4. Reboot and verify the partitions.  (this just insures they were writing 
to disk) Now I DELETE the 100 meg partition.  This insures an Operating 
System doesn't try to format and use it.  This 100 meg area insures there 
is plenty of space between usable partitions for the Librettos hibernation.

Because the Libretto itself set up the original "8 gig" partition, the END 
of this partition is sure to be in the "right place" relative to the 
Libretto Hibernation.  I know the hibernation might only need to be 
smaller, but is "easier" to be safe and besides that, I think the software 
I have used has a minimum size I can make the partition.  Haven't set one 
up in a few months.

An important note I did realize years ago after several drive corruption's! 
 You can not turn off the Librettos hibernation function.  It can be 
triggered by hardware independent of your OS for thermal overload and low 
battery conditions.  SO no matter your OS, IF the Libretto tries to 
hibernate, it goes as far as the BIOS (specifically) can see (8.X gig) and 
starts it write.  Instant data corruption.  If I had ONLY known this years 
ago it would have saved me so much time formatting and replacing data.

I have successfully done the above on more than a dozen Libretto 100CT's 
and 110CT's with basically every hard drive brand I have seen.  It has been 
used on drives from 15gig to 100gig.

I run Windows 98 on my Librettos but I have set this up for persons with 
other OS's.  I do not install their OS's, I just set up the partitions and 
make them DOS bootable.

It isn't as difficult as it looks at first.  I can do this in a few minutes 
now.
If you need any specifics for any of the above, just email me and I will do 
my best to assist you further.  Most likely everything I have typed is 
somewhere else in this system though.  I learned it all here.

Good Luck
John Martin


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From:  Joseph [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:  Saturday, January 27, 2007 10:18 AM
To:  Libretto
Subject:  [LIB] John Martin

Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:19:53 -0700
From: "Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: John Martin

John,
I sent you an e-mail regarding your kind offer, received no response.
Are you still offering to reply to this message, if you have the time that
is?!
Thanks.
Joseph

Question:
1. The Win98SE CD contents need to be copied to [D:], hard drive is then
placed in the 110, then from the Dos prompt setup is run?
2. OS is installed to the 8GB partition [C:]?
3. Any other software is then installed to [D:] drive?
4. There should be a space buffer of 100 meg between the first 8GB and the
rest of the hard drive?
5. In the end there should be two drive letters, [C:] and [D:]?

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Libretto" <libretto@basiclink.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 6:13 AM
Subject: RE: [LIB] 110 HD Confusion (Win98SE)


> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:11:30 -0800
> From: John Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [LIB] 110 HD Confusion (Win98SE)
>
> Hello Joseph...
>
> I am heading out the door to go to work, but when I get back tonight I
> will
> reply to this message with a short description and some links
>
> You don't necessarily need a drive overlay.  It depends on which method
> you
> use of setting up your hard drive.
>
> One partition is not generally possible with a drive over roughly 8GB in 
a
> Libretto 110CT due to the hibernation routines needing that area to write
> hibernation area data into.
>
> More complete reply later...
>
> John Martin
>
> ====================================================
>
> ----------
> From:  Joseph [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent:  Monday, January 15, 2007 10:11 PM
> To:  Libretto
> Subject:  [LIB] 110 HD Confusion (Win98SE)
>
> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:08:53 -0700
> From: "Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: 110 HD Confusion (Win98SE)
>
> Greetings:
> I want to upgrade to a Western Digital Scorpio 120GB HD, running Win98SE,
> and have MS DOS 6.22 as well on a 110CT
>
> 1. Do I need a drive overlay?
>
> 2. What is the steps for installing both MS DOS 6.22 and Win98SE?
>
> I have tried FDISK, Installing MS DOS 6.22, then atemping to get the
> CD-Rom
> to be recognized to install Win, but could not see the CD-Rom.
>
> I want to keep things as simple as possible, one partion, no overlay if
> possible, etc.
>
> Thank you.
> Joseph
>
>
>
>
>



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