I logged in and immediately got assailed with accusations. I'm now a liar,
John and Baba are criminals, and every person in the libSL group supports
griefers, according to Prokofy.

Oh yeah, John and Baba - Prok says you should publicly apologize, step down,
and quit submitting code to libSL.

However, one thing that Prok said is true: Baba's showing copybot around on
the grid and John selling not one but two different controversial programs
(God Mode and Copybot) has caused a lot of controversy. I'm not going to
call either one of them griefers or criminals, but John - I really wish you
hadn't been selling copybot. That made all of us look bad, and considering
the fact that you still haven't made a public apology for that, people
naturally assume that you're happy to profit from would-be griefers.

Perhaps it IS time for John and Baba both to step up, admit fault, take the
blame, and say "we're sorry for the problems this caused. In the future, we
won't do this -  sell or distribute any test programs that can violate
someone else's IP". Don't get me wrong - I don't think Baba intended for
this to happen, but John had to know that selling CopyBot was a bad idea.

Before you think this is all in reaction to Prok, I've received quite a few
disparaging comments that brought my character in to question because I
supported you guys when I thought you hadn't done anyhthing wrong. Finding
out you HAD been selling copybot was like a slap in the face, and
considering the fact that I defended your honor and was proven wrong, not
once but twice, I'm a little upset.

Why didn't I say anything before? Quite frankly, I was hoping it would just
go away. But things like this most recent "conversation" just keep bringing
it back up. When someone says "Why did you defend John, when he was the one
selling it?" I don't have a good answer. All I can say is, "I know he's
sorry," but I can't point to a single public place where John Hurliman steps
up and says "Selling CopyBot was wrong, and I'm sorry I did it."

So now I'm beginning to be sorry that I believed in this group's leaders.
What do I do about that? I don't know yet, but this is a start.




On 12/12/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 Prokofy Neva is the zenith archetype of Internet trolls...  And that's
coming from me, Jarod Godel, an Internet troll.  She's technophobic,
narrow-minded, and those are her (she is a she) good qualities.  Either
ignore her or take pleasure in trolling back.

-Andy
(aka Jarod Godel)



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Subject: [Libsecondlife-dev] Prokofy speaks....

 I've been getting IM's from Prokofy Neva, to the tune of about 30 or so,
telling me that I'm somehow responsible for griefers like W-Hat, because I'm
a member of the libSecondLife group within Second Life. I offered to talk to
him one on one, but he just kept telling me how my reputation is falling
because I'm associated with libSL, and that he will hold ME responsible for
the W-Hat griefing going on in his land.

This attitude is especially frustrating, considering the fact that I've
been the most outspoken about forming a group to find ways to fight griefing
and "unsafe" programming involving third party SL programs and scripts.

Have others here had experience with Prokofy? Do you have suggestions for
how to talk to him to make him understand my position, or is he just going
to badger me until I miute him?

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