On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 10:48:26AM +0000, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 11:36:03AM +0100, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 09:44:36AM +0100, Erik Skultety wrote:


> > Speaking of logos...at the risk of opening a huge bucket of paint: 
> > 
> > The current libvirt logo is bit non-intuitive.  Unless you squint at it
> > to see what it might be about, you won't immediately get an idea what is
> > trying to tell you.  Not sure if there's appetite to rework the logo
> > itself.
> I don't really want to go there - I really like our logo.
> In general I don't think logos really need to explain what the project
> is, largely because doing so is impossible/impractical for most technical
> projects.

I agree that's a rabbit hole we don't want to go into, not least because
of the practicality point you mention.

> > Let me see if I can describe the image in words: "you're peeling off
> > some layer and you see little penguins (VMs) get churned out".
> You know it is basically a "sardine tin", but with penguins right ?

Ah, I didn't know that; thanks for the education.  I heard of the term
Sardine (a kind of a small edible fish that is commonly shipped in a
tin) for the first time; just learnt from wikipedia.

> The tin is the computer, and the sardines (penguins) are the OS
> that are crammed inside it. That's a pretty good analogy for VMs

In that context of "tinned sardines", and your explanation, it does make
for a decent analogy.  Interesting; I never connected the dots this way
(/me chalks it up to him being a vegetarian ;-)) and always wondered
about the meaning of the logo.  Now I see.  

Maybe a quick libvirt wiki page, "about logo" would be nice, explaining
what it is.  I think it is amusing to know.

> > (But that's from my biased POV of already knowing what libvirt is.)
> > 
> > For some inspiration, take a look at how the `curl` project went about
> > redesigning its logo[1].
> >
> > [1] https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2016/05/27/a-new-curl-logo/
> I don't think the new curl logo is any more "intuitive" in explaining
> what the project is than their old logo. Unless you already know that
> CURL is a library for downloading web content, the implications of the
> "://" will pass right over your head. The new curl logo is certainly a
> very nice improvement, but that's because the old one was really pretty
> crude so anything would be better. I wouldn't say it is any more
> intuitive though - just a nicer graphic design.

Yeah, I was indeed thinking: "Okay, the new logo _looks_ pretty, and
makes sense to those who know what `curl` is; but isn't all that
terribly intuitive for a newcomer."

Alright, your argument persuades me to not go down that route of a new



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