Cool!  Would Fedora/Red Hat consider it to be Open Source?  

Thanks,
Cem Karan

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> Can't speak for Debian, but Fedora will happily take software licensed as you 
> describe.
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> On Mar 16, 2017 3:09 PM, "Karan, Cem F CIV USARMY RDECOM ARL (US)" 
> <cem.f.karan....@mail.mil < Caution-
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>       I agree that the Government can release it as open source, but as I 
> understand it, not as Open Source.  The difference is whether
> or not the code will be accepted into various journals (Journal of Open 
> Source Software is one).  It also affects whether or not various
> distributions will accept the work (would Debian?  I honestly don't know).
> 
>       And I'm not after plain vanilla CC0 code to be called Open Source, I'm 
> after the method I outlined earlier.  This side-steps the need
> to have CC0 put forth by the license steward (I hope!).  I know that is 
> splitting hairs, but at this point I'm tearing my hair out over this, and
> would like to put it to rest before I have to buy a wig.
> 
>       Thanks,
>       Cem Karan
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>       > Cem,
>       >
>       > The USG does not need OSI’s approval to release code as open source 
> under CC0.  It has done so already on code.gov < Caution-
> http://code.gov > .  This includes the
>       > OPM, NASA, GSA, DOT, DOL, DOC and others. CC0 is compliant with the 
> Federal Source Code Policy for open source release.
>       >
>       > It is unlikely that you can push CC0 through license review as you 
> aren’t the license steward.  It is up to CC to resubmit CC0 for
> approval.
>       >
>       > Regards,
>       >
>       > Nigel
>       >
>       > On 3/16/17, 8:56 AM, "License-discuss on behalf of Karan, Cem F CIV 
> USARMY RDECOM ARL (US)" <license-discuss-
>       > boun...@opensource.org < Caution-mailto:boun...@opensource.org >  on 
> behalf of cem.f.karan....@mail.mil < Caution-
> mailto:cem.f.karan....@mail.mil > > wrote:
>       >
>       >     All, I want to keep this alive as I haven't seen a conclusion 
> yet.  Earlier I
>       >     asked if OSI would accept the US Government (USG) putting its 
> non-copyrighted
>       >     works out under CC0 as Open Source **provided** that the USG 
> accepts and
>       >     redistributes copyrighted contributions under an OSI-approved 
> license.  Is
>       >     this acceptable to OSI?  Should I move this discussion to the 
> license-review
>       >     list?
>       >
>       >     To recap:
>       >
>       >     1) This would only cover USG works that do not have copyright.  
> Works that
>       >     have copyright would be eligible to use copyright-based licenses, 
> and to be
>       >     OSI-approved as Open Source would need to use an OSI-approved 
> license.
>       >
>       >     2) The USG work/project would select an OSI-approved license that 
> it accepted
>       >     contributions under.  The USG would redistribute the 
> contributions under that
>       >     license, but the portions of the work that are not under 
> copyright would be
>       >     redistributed under CC0.  That means that for some projects (ones 
> that have no
>       >     copyrighted material at all initially), the only license that the 
> works would
>       >     have would be CC0.
>       >
>       >     I can't speak to patents or other IP rights that the USG has, I 
> can only
>       >     comment on what the Army Research Laboratory (ARL) has done
>       >     
> (Caution-Caution-https://github.com/USArmyResearchLab/ARL-Open-Source-Guidance-and-Instructions
>  < Caution-
> https://github.com/USArmyResearchLab/ARL-Open-Source-Guidance-and-Instructions
>  > ),
>       >     which includes a step to affirmatively waive any patent rights 
> that ARL might
>       >     have in the project before distributing it.  I am hoping that 
> other agencies
>       >     will do something similar, but have no power or authority to say 
> that they
>       >     will.
>       >
>       >     Given all this, is it time to move this to license-review, or 
> otherwise get a
>       >     vote?  I'd like this solved ASAP.
>       >
>       >     Thanks,
>       >     Cem Karan
>       >
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