Hello VanL,> That said, there is an essential difference between moral/ethical 
views that are *necessarily congruent* with FOSS and those that are not. That 
seems perfectly sensible and logical to me. Morals and ethics are almost 
allways couched in context.> However, it is unclear whether any effort  to do 
so can work, even in theory. FOSS, and the OSD in particular, have strong 
non-discrimination language at their core. Many ethical licensing schemes are 
at their core an effort to discriminate.I'd tend to agree with you. I'm trying 
to put myself in the original submitters view and "poke at the walls" of the 
OSD as so many submissions  to L-D seem to stumble on such similar problems 
repeatedly. It may be that there is no way to combine the two as they are in 
some ways competeing philosophies. But to really answer problems like these on 
L-D I feel like we need to do better than just say "Nope can't be done, to do 
so is unethical" and to start exploring their suggestion and ask for a way to 
counter the OSDs interpretation or relevance. If they do so successfully they 
helped make the OSD stronger and if not they've helped vet it to today's 
challenges and fight the stereotype that the osd is a set of dated principles 
that don't apply to all open source use cases anymore.In short (and with the 
utmost respect to all on this list) l-d seems to be more 
l-proliferationisbadshutthislicensedown. The moment you discount an idea 
altogether the more likely you missed a loophole, greater threat or worse yet 
an opportunity to learn.
-------- Original message --------From: VanL <van.lindb...@gmail.com> Date: 
2020-02-26  10:24 p.m.  (GMT-05:00) To: license-discuss@lists.opensource.org 
Subject: Re: [License-discuss] Language, appropriateness, and ideas Hi 
Andrew,Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I agree that Free Software was 
developed based upon a particular moral and ethical point of view. I also think 
you are correct that the moral foundations of FOSS text to attract many people 
with strong moral convictions.That said, there is an essential difference 
between moral/ethical views that are *necessarily congruent* with FOSS and 
those that are not. There may be a way to incorporate other moral views into a 
license, and it is acceptable to propose ideas regarding how that may be done. 
However, it is unclear whether any effort  to do so can work, even in theory. 
FOSS, and the OSD in particular, have strong non-discrimination language at 
their core. Many ethical licensing schemes are at their core an effort to 
discriminate.Thanks,Van__________________________Van 
lindbergvan.lindb...@gmail.comm: 214.364.7985
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