From: License-discuss <license-discuss-boun...@lists.opensource.org> On Behalf 
Of Russell McOrmond
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 4:57 AM
To: license-discuss@lists.opensource.org
Subject: Re: [License-discuss] Thoughts on the subject of ethical licenses

 

 

I recognise that this reminder will be annoying to some, but the FSF and OSI 
have a problem in that it has already approved licenses which seek to add 
restrictions on the mere USE of software versus the DISTRIBUTION of software.   
The AGPL clauses specifically, and other aspects of GPLv3 (Tivoization), opened 
the door to this controvercial conversation.

The AGPL “ASP loophole” clause didn’t open the door to that conversation.  I 
can think of at least two other OSI-approved licenses that had that concept in 
them before AGPL was submitted for approval (although AGPLv1 might have 
preceded them to the concept —but AGPLv1 wasn’t ever submitted to OSI for 
approval).




My hope that this conversation won't just fizzle without the community 
documenting the primary goals (and that is plural, as there are a set of 
complimentary goals) of the Open Source community, the reasoning for the 
bare-minimum expressed in the OSD, and having an honest discussion about 
whether we should provide critiques of existing approved licenses that may be 
problemmatic for achieving the goals.

 

I share this belief.  Part of the issue, IMHO, is that the OSD is somewhat 
open-ended on certain points (although 5 & 6 are pretty clear), so there can be 
debate about whether certain licenses either on the list or proposed to be 
placed on this list fall within or without the OSD. Which is why these debates 
happen, and why there may exist a perception that the OSD is somewhat malleable 
depending on who is submitting the license for approval.

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