There is a recent case in the Southern District in New York holding that a similar 
provision was not enough to create a contract because it did not require an 
affirmative action such as clicking on an Accept button before downloading and using 
Netscape's SmartDownload.  The court also considered where the "contract language" was 
positioned.  Here, at the bottom of the download page (requiring users to scroll down 
to see it), there was a sentence stating "Please review and agree to the terms of
the Netscape SmartDownlaod software license agreement before downloading and using the 
software."  The statement is linked to a page with License and Support Agreements.  
The first paragraph of that page contains the licensing language.  The court in this 
case recognized three types of licenses, shrink-wrap, click-wrap and browse-wrap and 
classified Netscape's license as a browse-wrap .  The case name is Specht v. Netscape 
Communications Corp., 00Civ. 4871 (AKH), 00 Civ. 6219 (AKH), 00 Cive.
6269(AKH)(S.D.N.Y. July 3, 2001).

-----Original Message-----
From: David Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RealNetworks' RTSP Proxy License


On Thursday 06 September 2001 02:36 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >YOU AGREE THAT YOUR USE OF THE SOFTWARE ACKNOWLEDGES THAT YOU HAVE READ
> >THIS LICENSE, UNDERSTAND IT, AND AGREE TO BE BOUND BY ITS TERMS AND
> >CONDITIONS.  IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO THE TERMS OF THIS LICENSE AGREEMENT,
> > DO NOT USE THE SOFTWARE.
>
> IANAL, but my understanding from this list, and otehr sources, is that use
> of software is not a reserved right and therefore cannot be used to signal
> agreement. Only the exercising of granted rights, which must be ones
> initially reserved, cna be used to signal agreement. I might be wrong of
> course, and if this is already used in open source approved license ignore
> me (but please tell me you are doing so)

This caught me the first time through. What if I disagree with the license? 
Can I still use the software? Will I get sued if I do? This is silly.

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David Johnson
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