On Fri, 19 October 2001, Angelo Schneider wrote: > THERE EXISTS NOTHING LIKE A COMMON TERM: "asuming fair use" etc. > What "fair use" means is explicitly defined in copyright law.
OK, maybe I've confused "fair use" with just plain "use". whichever. The point is that I can't figure out how you can use a source code library without compiling it and LINKING it with outside code. otherwise you have a bunch of bits in RAM that you can never execute, therefore never use. so, to me, it seems that either linking is plain "use", or its under a righted granted to the copyright holder, (such as a derived work), but "fair use" allows the user to do the link anyway. and the LGPL is going out of its way to assert that linking is "deriving" when I can't see it as anything but use. > > I copyright a JPEG. > > > > I assume fair use says users can translate the > > JPEG mumbo-jumbo into a two-dimensional array > > or RGB values (i.e. DERIVE). > NOPE! > Fair use says: if you do translate it into RGB values you may not > redistribute it. > Making a "derived work" falls fully under copy right law, there is no > FAIR USE clause applyable to "derived work". I said nothing of distribution in any of this discussion. if I have a JPEG that you've copyrighted and given to me, you're saying I can't convert it to a viewable format that my computer video board can understand? because its a derived work and you didn't give me those rights? then I have a file that I can't use. some derivation must be allowed to do the conversions from a compressed, binary file, to a 2D array of RGB values for my PC. "use" or "fair use", but its got to be in there somewhere. otherwise, you're saying that if I pay your for a JPEG, and you only grant me rights to "use" but not 'derive', then I can't view it on my computer. > > can I prevent you from displaying my translated > > JPEG adjacent to proprietary images? > > SURE!!! All that is copyright about! > Copyright law forbidds it by default! > I'm not allowed to public display your images! uh, miscommunication overload. I did not mean to imply public display. I was continuing the JPEG analogy where someone wants to use my JPEG file, create a RGB version, and display it on their PC. i.e. privately. Greg -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3
