John -- I'll reply to two points: (A) an authors positive right to copy? no. (B) derivative works: what rights does the author of the original work have
(A) You say: "each person has a duty not to hinder him [the author making a copy of his own work]". I am aware of no basis in US copyright law for such a duty. I am aware of no basis in US copyright law for a positive right to make a copy. By writing something down, you become a copyright owner. That ownership right does not give you any special privilege or right to copy, distribute, etc. that work. If others have rights that are infringed by such acts, they are free to assert those rights to prevent you from undertaking those acts. They have no "duty not to hinder" you. How is this manifest in the law? The US copyright law gives remedies against those who undertake one of the exclusive actions without the copyright owner's permission (see 17 USC 501 and following). Let me know if you will not find in that copyright law any remedy against someone who hinders the author from making a copy of their own work. (B) Yes, the authorized creator of a derivative work will typically receive permission to copy and distribute the derivative work in the terms of the license that gives the permission to make the derivative. For the author of the derivative, I don't immediately see whether it matter if you think if that permission being a condition of creating the derivative or a permission for copying and distribution of material from the original author's work. It doesn't matter; the author of the derivative needs the original author's permission one way or the other. However, the difference can be clearly seen in those downstream. Those downstream who make unauthorized copies of the derivative work infringe both the rights of the original author as well as the rights of the author of the derivative. In other words, the permission to create the derivative is not the end of the rights of the original author. As long as their copyrightable material is present, their permission is needed. To illustrate: author of original work gives permission for a second author to create a derivative work and to publish it as chapter 26 in a particular novel; someone then makes an unauthorized copy of chapter 26; that copy of chapter 26 infringes the rights of the original author as well as the rights of the author of the derivative. The original authors claim against the copier of chapter 26 is not based on that copier having violated the original author's exclusive right to make derivative works; it is based on violation of the original author's exclusive right to make copies of their work (literal or otherwise). The rights provided under US copyright law are negative rights (the right to exclude others), not positive rights (the right to do something yourself). -- Scott -----Original Message----- From: John Cowan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 1:08 PM To: Peterson, Scott K (HP Legal) Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The Copyright Act preempts the GPL Peterson, Scott K (HP Legal) scripsit: > A copyright holder does not have a right to make a copy. Rather, the > copyright holder has the right to prevent others from making a copy. Of course the copyright holder has the right to make a copy of the work. That is to say that each person has a duty not to hinder him. > So, the interplay between the rights of author of an original work and > the rights of the author of a derivative work interlock as follows: > The author of the derivative work has the exclusive right to make > copies of the derivative work. That means that they can prevent others > from making copies of the derivative work. Correct. > However, the author of the > derivative work does not have the affirmative right to make copies of > their derivative work. Of course he does, provided the derivative work was prepared under a license from the copyright holder of the original work. > There may be various impediments to their ability > to legally copy their own work. For example, their right to make > copies is contingent on permission from the author of the original > work (because the derivative work includes copyrightable content from > the original; otherwise it would not be considered a derivative work). Not so. *Preparing* the derivative work in the first place is contingent on that permission, and of course the permission may be conditional (and often is). But once the derivative work is lawfully prepared, all the other exclusive rights in the copyright bundle attach to the copyright holder. New Line Cinema obtained a license from Tolkien Enterprises (not the same as the Tolkien Estate) to make a derivative work based on the _Lord of the Rings_. They then have the exclusive right to distribute copies of that work, and (more relevantly) the exclusive right to perform it publicly. No further permission is required. If you think otherwise, please point to the relevant sentence of the Copyright Act or case law. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be yourself. Especially do not feign a working knowledge of RDF where no such knowledge exists. Neither be cynical about RELAX NG; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment in the world of markup, James Clark is as perennial as the grass. --DeXiderata, Sean McGrath -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3

