Alex Rousskov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > While I agree with the goals of the license author, he's putting > > restrictions on the use of the software, and restrictions on use are > > not allowed. He points to other licenses which restrict some > > modifications, but they do it at redistribution time, not at use > > time. Fundamentally, the author is trying to use licensing to > > substitute for trademark law. > > > > Title: Open Test License v1.1 > > Submission: > > http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3:mss:7537:200401:cldkhgfpmlhkdcokelpg > > Comments: > > Larry Rosen: > > http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3:mss:7541:200401:cldkhgfpmlhkdcokelpg > > Rod Dixon: > > http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3:mss:7545:200401:cldkhgfpmlhkdcokelpg > > Recommend: disapproval. > > Thank you for reviewing my license submission. > > The license submission instructions indicate that OSI "will work with > [submittors] to resolve any problems uncovered in public comment". > Could you please let me know how that problem resolution process > works? Should I make modifications in hope to change your opinion and > resubmit the license? Or is there a better way?
I don't speak for the OSI. However, the way to resolve the problems is to consider the issues raised on the mailing list, and adjust the license accordingly. As can be seen form the comments, the problem is clause 3: 3. Publication of results from standardized tests contained within this software (<TESTNAME>, <TESTNAME>) must either strictly adhere to the execution rules for such tests or be accompanied by explicit prior written permission of <OWNER>. Earlier, you said, about that clause: The above is not meant to restrict the ways to use copies or the types of derivative works. It is meant to restrict only how test results are _named_. If a user renames a standard test or invents her own new test, she can publish whatever she wants, regardless of standardized test rules. But that is not what the clause says. The clause says that you can't publish test results except under certain restrictions. That is a condition on use of the software. Please note that OSI certified licenses already have similar (but not generic enough) clauses! See, for example, Artistic License and Open Group Test Suite license. Both require users to rename standardized tests if standardized tests are modified. The restrictions in those licenses are restrictions on distribution, not use. They state that if you distribute a modified version of the package, you must change certain standard names. They do not say anything about publishing test results, or about how you use the software in general. You are free to use modified versions of the standard executables under the same name if you choose, including publishing anything you like about them; you are just not free to redistribute them under the same name. The distinction between distribution and use is important. A license based on copyright can't restrict the use of the software. It can only restrict copying of the software. > Specifically, I would like to adjust the license so that there is no > perception that some uses of software are restricted. I am not sure I > understand the "modification restriction at redistribution time" > loophole you refer to above, but would be happy to use that if needed > (note that the submitted license does not restrict modifications of > software at all!). I think that you will need to remove any restrictions on the use of the software. That means no restrictions on publishing test results. I should add that I understand why you want the restrictions. But there are many things which people want which do not fall under the actions permitted by open source. > Please advise what my post-disapproval options are. Basically, to fix the problems in the license, and resubmit it. Ian -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3