John Cowan wrote:
> These would clearly cover adaptation of the text of the 
> standard into other standards, but an implementation 
> of the standard doesn't look like recasting, transforming,
> or adapting.

Many modern software standards, including the W3C HTML5 recommendation, are 
almost indistinguishable from code. Indeed, often such standards include 
partial reference implementations as software implementation guidance. As I 
understand it, so do at least some of the HL7 specifications about which 
Grahame Grieve originally inquired.

That is why the OWFa/CLA agreements include an open source compatible copyright 
license -- just in case there is some copyrighted content in the specification 
that needs to be recast, transformed, or adapted. No reason to wait until some 
court analyzes John Cowan's contention in your jurisdiction; everyone should 
feel free to copy, create derivative works of, or distribute the specification 
because of the OWF license agreements.

/Larry

Lawrence Rosen
Rosenlaw & Einschlag, a technology law firm (www.rosenlaw.com)
3001 King Ranch Rd., Ukiah, CA 95482
Office: 707-485-1242


-----Original Message-----
From: John Cowan [mailto:co...@mercury.ccil.org] 
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 10:22 AM
To: license-discuss@opensource.org
Subject: Re: [License-discuss] Derivative Works of a standard

Grahame Grieve scripsit:

> Is it only a derivative work if it quotes at length from the source? 
> more than fair use? where do the html tutorials stand, then, that 
> "derive" from the html specification in violation of the w3c license?

Note that the answer is not only law-specific (it depends on the controlling 
legal jurisdiction) but also fact-specific.  The U.S. legal definition of 
"derivative work" is:

    A “derivative work” is a work based upon one or more pre-existing
    works, such as a translation, musical arrangement, dramatization,
    fictionalization, motion picture version, sound recording, art
    reproduction, abridgment, condensation, or any other form in which
    a work may be recast, transformed, or adapted. A work consisting of
    editorial revisions, annotations, elaborations, or other modifications
    which, as a whole, represent an original work of authorship, is a
    “derivative work”.

These would clearly cover adaptation of the text of the standard into other 
standards, but an implementation of the standard doesn't look like recasting, 
transforming, or adapting.

-- 
John Cowan <co...@ccil.org>             http://www.ccil.org/~cowan
"Make a case, man; you're full of naked assertions, just like Nietzsche."
"Oh, i suffer from that, too.  But you know, naked assertions or GTFO."
                        --heard on #scheme, sorta 
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