On 8/5/16 4:20 PM, Smith, McCoy wrote:
Sec 10 of AGPL does not allow the imposition of additional restrictions to it (such
as "only for non-commercial uses), and section 7 allows a recipient to remove
those restrictions.
You really are trying to develop a non-open source business model. This board
is probably not the best place for trying to do that.
Ok, so based on the AGPL, that the AGPL.
And, no, I'm trying to develop a non-free business model, distinct from
a closed source model - with one very specific and limited non-free
condition. Specifically:
- run it on your own local machine: FOSS
- run it on your own host (including an enterprise host): FOSS
- run it on some other host, for your own use: FOSS
- run it on a host for non-commercial use (e.g, an organization
providing service to its members): FOSS
- rut it as a SaaS, charge for it: OSS with a license fee
Seems to me that this is an open source business model, just not one
where all things are free.
Miles
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Thanks for the starting points, folks.
I'm starting to think something like a dual license
- AGPL for non-commercial uses (AGPL + borrow some of the language from CC
BY-NC-*), and,
- Most of the terms of AGPL (re. download of source, etc.) + a license fee for
commercial use in an SaaS offering
I'm really wondering if there are any specific examples of someone doing this,
or of someone trying to do this and running into serious snags.
(You know, learn from other people's experiences, not reinvent the wheel, and
if there are really good reasons not to try, better to know
early.)
And, re. "You might want to post on a non-open source bulletin board" -- any
thoughts on where to post?
Thanks Again,
Miles
On 8/5/16 2:06 PM, Stephen Paul Weber wrote:
I'm wondering if anybody has any experience or thoughts about licenses that
permit self-hosting, and free hosting, but require a license fee for for-profit
hosting.
Of course, such a license would not be open source. However, I believe that
AGPL would get you very close to the spirit of what you want, while still being
an open source license.
AND
On 8/5/16 1:46 PM, Smith, McCoy wrote:
There are any number of licenses written in this way. CC BY-NC-* for example.
None of them are open source, however. See OSD 1 & 6.
You might want to post on a non-open source bulletin board.
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Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:36 AM
To: license-discuss@opensource.org
Subject: [License-discuss] licenses for hosted services
Hi Folks,
I'm working on some code that will eventually be made available as both open
source code, and a hosted service (think Wordpress, Drupal, etc.).
I'm wondering if anybody has any experience or thoughts about licenses that
permit self-hosting, and free hosting, but require a license fee for for-profit
hosting.
It strikes me that hosting is a reasonable business model for generating
sustaining revenue from open source code, but that it gets diluted very quickly
if anybody can free-ride (i.e., as much as I find it convenient to, at times,
set up a quick wordpress account on godaddy - it strikes me as just a might
unfair that I'm paying godaddy, but they're not paying the folks at wordpress,
and worse, they're siphoning off customers from wordpress).
Anybody have thoughts on the matter?
Thanks,
Miles Fidelman
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