Cem, my previous email about the Federal Register process wasn't clear. 

It certainly starts as a proposal from your department's lawyers for a formal 
legal policy of some sort. 

THEN it becomes a public process. THEN there are public hearings and specific 
written feedback. THEN the arguments become relevant to the public. 

How that process concludes is up to democracy. 

But at least it won't be just a bunch of attorneys in a government department 
who are worried that their public domain software might already be used as a 
part of open source software without any new license confusion.

I'm on YOUR side to see you join the open source community.

/Larry

P.S. I'm already dealing with Federal Register activities relating to the 
National Organic Program. I know how lengthy and confusing such regulations can 
become.


-----Original Message-----
From: Karan, Cem F CIV USARMY RDECOM ARL (US) [mailto:cem.f.karan....@mail.mil] 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:13 PM
To: lro...@rosenlaw.com; license-discuss@opensource.org
Subject: RE: [License-discuss] [Non-DoD Source] Re: U.S. Army Research 
Laboratory Open Source License (ARL OSL) Version 0.4.1

OK, I've pushed it forward to the guys in charge of code.gov and the Federal 
Source Code policy; I'll bring it up with them on Thursday as well.  I don't 
know if they'll support it, nor do I know if I'm allowed to point the list to 
where the comments are[1], but if I am, I'll aim everyone there.  My only 
request is that everyone tries to get **all** their points in on the first 
round; that way we can limit the number of rounds we have to go through on the 
Federal Register (each round takes months to complete).

Thanks,
Cem Karan

[1] I'd be **very** surprised if I wasn't allowed to tell people about 
something in the Federal Register, but the law can be... unexpected.

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> Laboratory Open Source License (ARL OSL) Version 0.4.1
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> Cem Karan wrote:
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> > The Federal Register process may be the best way forwards.  I'll bring it 
> > up in the next Federal Source Code policy meeting.
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> That may be a good solution. The Federal Register process requires public 
> notice; public hearings; public feedback; written proposals
> based on legal reasoning; etc. It is not an in-house in-government 
> discussion. :-)
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> /Larry


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