Joe Kiniry wrote:

> In short, the reason we have made our software available in the fashion that 
> we have is exactly because of the fear factor surrounding GPL and, 
> secondarily, we do not want competitors to sell our software without 
> contributing back to the community.

 

Hi Joe, welcome to this list. :-)

 

Let's talk license fear factors. One of them is the mistaken impression that 
any open source license can ever prevent competitors from selling your 
software. But if you also insist that they contribute back to the community, 
then don't be afraid of the GPL; that is the principle of that license 
regardless of the licensees' fear. That is one major reason for Brent Turner 
and others to recommend the GPL for election software.

 

By the way, nowadays I personally prefer either the Apache License (rather than 
the BSD) or the reciprocal MPL 2.0 (rather than the GPL). But it would be 
foolish for a licensor to offer both Apache and MPL as a dual license. Take the 
Apache License rather than the MPL if the foolish licensor offers that dual 
license choice. It is always better for a licensee.

 

/Larry

 

 

From: Joe Kiniry [mailto:kin...@freeandfair.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:13 PM
To: John Cowan <co...@ccil.org>
Cc: Lawrence Rosen <lro...@rosenlaw.com>; Brent Turner 
<turnerbre...@gmail.com>; license-discuss@opensource.org; Alan Dechert 
<dech...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [License-discuss] FreeAndFair license

 

Thank you for including me in these discussions.  I'm now subscribed to 
license-discuss.

 

In short, the reason we have made our software available in the fashion that we 
have is exactly because of the fear factor surrounding GPL and, secondarily, we 
do not want competitors to sell our software without contributing back to the 
community.

 

We have yet to interact with a single elections official who understands and is 
comfortable with GPL, let alone demands GPL.  The most common licenses 
mentioned by EOs is BSD and Apache.  Zero election officials have expressed an 
interest in the OSET public license to date.

 

As with all R&D we do at Free & Fair and Galois, we listen to our customers and 
do what they ask.  Thus, we release most everything we do under BSD, unless we 
are forced towards another OSI license due to build dependencies etc.

 

Joe

 

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 11:58 AM, John Cowan <co...@ccil.org 
<mailto:co...@ccil.org> > wrote:

 

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Lawrence Rosen <lro...@rosenlaw.com 
<mailto:lro...@rosenlaw.com> > wrote:


> So, I still don't understand what role "principle" plays in BSD and

> GPL dual licensing?

 

The principle in question should be a legal maxim but isn't.  "Damnunt quod non 
intelligunt", people fear what they do not understand.

 

-- 

John Cowan          http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan        co...@ccil.org 
<mailto:co...@ccil.org> 

Objective consideration of contemporary phenomena compel the conclusion

that optimum or inadequate performance in the trend of competitive

activities exhibits no tendency to be commensurate with innate capacity,

but that a considerable element of the unpredictable must invariably be

taken into account. --Ecclesiastes 9:11, Orwell/Brown version

 

 

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