Hi,

@Tim
I don't have more info than the announce of 2.1.0-m1 or the following article :
* http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg89838.html
* http://blogs.sonatype.com/john/2008/09/19/1221844609400.html
(and I didn't find time to test the new version of maven)

@Derek
Jesse Eichar contribute scripting to maven-scala-plugin
(http://scala-tools.org/mvnsites-snapshots/maven-scala-plugin/usage_script.html)
this is part of the version 2.8-SNAPSHOT, that should be released next week.

/davidB

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Derek Chen-Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I agree on the Maven mojo programming. Anything to simplify custom build
> "scripts" would be great, so SBT sounds like an interesting idea. I didn't
> mean to imply that it was a bad idea, just that you don't need all of the
> "-Ds" :)
>
> Derek
>
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Tim Perrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Derek,
>>
>> I know about this command :-)
>>
>> My observation (of my friend at least) is that his reaction was "holy-
>> cow, i need to learn this build tool, a new language and a new
>> framework". The language and framework part you cant get away from
>> invariably but perhaps we can do something on the build tool front.
>>
>> Also what you generally see people doing with Rake is creating useful
>> little utilities without having to know heaps about how actually rake
>> works under the hood. Right now, IMO, creating maven mojo's is quite
>> difficult and you wouldnt see that same thing happening (a lot of
>> people are also very against "programming in XML" which maven can
>> sometimes feel like)
>>
>> Like I said, im not really pro-SBT or anything, I just wanted to float
>> the idea. Maven is doing a great job for us right now I agree.
>>
>> @davidB: Is there an ETA for maven 2.1 and 3.0 and/or a roadmap of new
>> features?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> On Oct 5, 11:33 pm, "Derek Chen-Becker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > There's no *requirement* to use all of the "-D" stuff. If you just do
>> >
>> > mvn -U archetype:generate
>> >
>> > you actually get a nice list of archetypes, two of which are:
>> >
>> > 31: internal -> lift-archetype-blank (A blank/empty liftweb project)
>> > 32: internal -> lift-archetype-basic (The basic (liftweb) project)
>> >
>> > If you just pick the number it prompts you for the necessary info.
>> >
>> > Derek
>> >
>> > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Tim Perrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > god no, I dont want to replace maven :-)
>> >
>> > > There is talk of SBT having rake type functionality in the not too
>> > > distant future, so that was more what I was thinking. I appreciate
>> > > that maven can do all that stuff but from a beginer perspective its
>> > > pretty difficult for them to learn.
>> >
>> > > I recently persuaded my best friend to take up lift, and one of the
>> > > things he just couldnt understand was all the -D stuff he needed to do
>> > > when getting started. So my intention here was more thinking that
>> > > perhaps its something we could leverage to simply our project creation
>> > > needs etc
>> >
>> > > Like I said, just floating the idea :-)
>> >
>> > > Cheers
>> >
>> > > Tim
>> >
>> > > On Oct 5, 8:22 pm, "Jorge Ortiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > > I don't see a downside to providing an alternative build system to
>> > > > people
>> > > > who are very Maven-averse.... (as long as I don't have to maintain
>> > > > it!,
>> > > heh)
>> >
>> > > > But yeah, replacing Maven at this point seems unwise, unless there
>> > > > are
>> > > very
>> > > > compelling reasons.
>> >
>> > > > --j
>> >
>> > > > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 12:15 PM, David Pollak <
>> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>> > > > > wrote:
>> >
>> > > > > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Tim Perrett
>> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> > > > >> Guys,
>> >
>> > > > >> Check this out:
>> >
>> > > > >>http://code.google.com/p/simple-build-tool/
>> >
>> > > > >> It appeared a couple of days ago - im wondering if its something
>> > > > >> we
>> > > > >> could customize to make starting lift projects easier? Its all
>> > > > >> written
>> > > > >> in scala so should be easily extendable.
>> >
>> > > > > I am very reluctant to introduce an additional build system to
>> > > > > Lift.
>> > >  If
>> > > > > this tool is built on top of the Maven infrastructure but uses
>> > > > > Scala
>> > > files
>> > > > > to define build rules rather than using XML, I'm interested in
>> > > > > learning
>> > > > > more.  If it's yet another build tool... well...
>> >
>> > > > >> I need to take a better look, but thought id float the idea
>> >
>> > > > >> Cheers
>> >
>> > > > >> Tim
>> >
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > Lift, the simply functional web frameworkhttp://liftweb.net
>> > > > > Collaborative Task Managementhttp://much4.us
>> > > > > Follow me:http://twitter.com/dpp
>> > > > > Git some:http://github.com/dpp
>>
>
>
> >
>

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