Thanks. I'll play around more. Do you guys think it'll be a good idea to
have a collection of people's github repos with lift code from the mailing
list if they have it public?
The examples for lift-core code were very useful for my learning.


On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:07 AM, David Pollak <[email protected]
> wrote:

> Tim,
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:07 PM, timshawn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I'm currently playing with Lift, and one of the things that surprised
>> me was how much Javascript code is in Scala for snippets and bind.
>
>
> Hmmm... bind() doesn't generate any JavaScript and snippets are typically
> ways to insert server-generated code.
>



>
> Lift does have a lot of helper methods, mostly in SHtml, that do attach
> JavaScript to the HTML elements the generate.
>
>
>>
>> I'm not saying this is bad, because I haven't done an app this way
>> yet, but I'm more used to writing the JS myself using jQuery or some
>> other library.
>
>
> Except for Lift's Comet support (when you include a CometActor), Lift only
> inserts JavaScript into the elements that you explicitly ask it to.  Some
> people
>
>
>>
>> I'm wondering if anyone has had more experience working with Lift and
>> maintaining an app in it, to say when in their opinion is a good time
>> to put things in JS or in Scala snippets, and the advantages and
>> disadvantages of putting most of the JS in snippets. (would you mostly
>> use it for Ajax callbacks and comet-related stuff, or would you do a
>> lot more stuff like hide/unhiding elements, etc. in scala?)
>
>
> I put any business logic in my Scala code.  If the JavaScript helps express
> the business logic, then it it belongs in the Scala or bound very tightly to
> the Scala code.  In general, I think of JavaScript as assembly language and
> I try to abstract it as much as possible.
>
>
>>
>>
>> The one thing I can think of is Scala's type safety, but when for
>> example, I accidentally change an HTML node's id and there is a JSCmd
>> to trigger behaviour on that, there won't be JS errors, but the
>> "right"/expected behaviour won't happen either.
>
>
> That's why Lift's helpers are useful as they assign the id and tie the
> behavior to the generated id.
>
> A number of Lift users (Charles Munat comes to mind) have cloned the Lift
> libraries and modified them to suit particular coding styles.  I love
> looking at their code (especially Charles') because it helps me find the
> best ideas to roll back into Lift.  In this way, the community becomes
> involved in the whole Lift growth process. So, please learn some Lift and
> add your style into the mix.
>
> Thanks,
>
> David
>
>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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