My point was that so far Lift seems to be fine without it. When a problem crops up for which AOP appears to be the best or only solution, then it will be worth considering it. Until then, it is only change for change's sake, IMO, otherwise known as feature creep. I'm a fan of Occam: don't overly complicate things. Unnecessary features = more bugs and more code to maintain.
As more and more Java programmers discover Scala (and Lift), there is going to be increasing pressure to incorporate Java's features because... well, because that's what people are used to. IMHO, the Scala/Lift community should resist this pressure to the extent possible, and only incorporate ideas that are really necessary. Furthermore, I think that the community (and I believe it already does this), should look to many other languages for the best ways to accomplish goals. Chas. Josh Suereth wrote: > > > On Mar 30, 2009, at 6:25 PM, "Charles F. Munat" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I'd have to second David on this. If it ain't broke... >> > > Keep coding until it is? > > Although the standard use case in java for aspects is not so much > needed in scala, I wouldn't throw it out completely. It's another > tool that could be useful in the right circumstances, like the C > language. > >> David Pollak wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Lee Mighdoll <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Welcome Jonas! >>> >>> I'd been thinking that some judicious use of aspectJ might be a >>> nice >>> fit for lift. Rumor has it you know something about aspects... >>> >>> >>> AspectJ over my dead body. :-) >>> >>> I think AOP is a dangerous and generally very bad thing to do (sorry >>> Jonas). I have not found an application for it in Scala and would >>> need >>> a lot of convincing to include it with anything Lift-related. >>> >>> Sorry for the wicked negative vibe against AOP... but it's one of my >>> hard-core things. >>> >>> >>> >>> Lee >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:15 AM, marius d. <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Welcome Jonas ! >>> >>> On Mar 30, 7:52 pm, David Pollak >>> <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> wrote: >>>> Folks, >>>> >>>> Please join me in welcoming Jonas as a Lift committer. I had >>> the pleasure >>>> of meeting Jonas as QCon in London this month. Jonas, Tim, >>> and I went out a >>>> grabbed a few pints and chatted. I think Jonas has a lot to >>> contribute to >>>> Lift. >>>> >>>> So, please join me in welcoming him! >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> David >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Lift, the simply functional web frameworkhttp://liftweb.net >>> <http://liftweb.net> >>>> Beginning Scalahttp://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890 >>> <http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890> >>>> Follow me:http://twitter.com/dpp >>>> Git some:http://github.com/dpp >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Lift, the simply functional web framework http://liftweb.net >>> Beginning Scala http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890 >>> Follow me: http://twitter.com/dpp >>> Git some: http://github.com/dpp >>> > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lift" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
