Taking the discussion to the main list

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Jonas Bonér <jo...@jonasboner.com> wrote:

>
> 2009/4/16 David Pollak <feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com>:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Jonas Bonér <jo...@jonasboner.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> 2009/4/16 David Pollak <feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com>:
> >> > It'd be optimal if you could discuss the JTA stuff in the public
> forum.
> >> >  In
> >> > terms of AOP, I'm really not kidding that AOP is not going to happen
> in
> >> > Lift.
> >>
> >> You don't like annotations? E.g. @Transactional etc.?
> >
> > I'm not keen on annotations, but I can live with them.
> >
> > I am firmly against anything that re-writes byte-code after the
> compilation
> > phase for production code.  Once the Scala-Maven plugin supports compiler
> > plugins, then there's a lot of stuff that can be done at compile-time.
>
> The AOP stuff I have done is based on dynamic proxies no bytecode munging.


OKay... I need to see some example to fully understand why a proxy needs AOP
rather than either (1) compile-time proxy generation or (2) the built-in
Java reflect proxy thingy.


>
>
> >
> > So, what does AOP give us that can't be done at another phase?
> >
>
> Semantics to annotations.


Can you help out with an example?

Thanks,

David




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