Yes, for those who wish to tinker and share their tinkerings with the world,
the zero cost entry point* is good.

I'm also interested in any opinions of which free services are better than
GAE for Lift apps.

Cheers
Jeremy

* - yes, I know there is a billing model for increased bandwidth and other
add-ons with GAE.



2009/4/20 samreid <[email protected]>

>
> If GAE is not a good home for Lift applications, can you recommend
> some alternate hosts?  Are there any free alternates?
>
> Thanks,
> Sam Reid
>
> On Apr 17, 3:57 pm, David Pollak <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Folks,
> >
> > I've just committed a version of Lift (including the Lift Example) that
> runs
> > on the Google App Engine.  You can see the running demo at:
> http://liftdemo.appspot.com/
> >
> > What's missing:
> >
> >    - Mapper and Mapper-related stuff.  You can use JPA.
> >    - Comet.  GAE's lack of thread or message queue support is a huge
> >    limitation.
> >    - Actor-based session-shutdown notification is disabled on GAE.
> >    - There's no session affinity guarantee, so there may be problems with
> >    migrating sessions (I'll be working with the Google folks on this
> issue)
> >
> > Okay... so you can build apps on GAE... I have to wonder... who would
> want
> > to?
> >
> > GAE gives you a highly scalable platform to build CRUD apps.  Without a
> > back-end messaging infrastructure, long running processes, threads,
> > inter-session messaging, etc. there's not much in the way of exciting
> apps
> > to build.  Here are a list of apps that could not be built with GAE:
> >
> >    - Twitter (requires a message bus and back-ground processing)
> >    - Facebook (has many of Twitter's requirements)
> >    - GoogleTalk
> >    - A travel site (the 30 second request duration means that looking
> stuff
> >    up on a back end service is not possible)
> >    - A multi-player game
> >
> > So... on a $100/mo box from CalPop, I can run a service that will scale
> to
> > 20M requests per day.  If I'm doing 20M requests per day, I've got a
> > business where I want more control over my infrastructure than GAE gives
> > me.  That might be Amazon EC2 where I can power-up and down boxes at
> will.
> > There are also a number of different scalable storage solutions on
> Amazon.
> > I just can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would want to put a
> > Java/Scala app on GAE.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > David
> >
> > --
> > Lift, the simply functional web frameworkhttp://liftweb.net
> > Beginning Scalahttp://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890
> > Follow me:http://twitter.com/dpp
> > Git some:http://github.com/dpp
>
> >
>


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