> Your email did not meet this standard.

dpp, I'm glad you addressed this.  My initial response, which I
deleted, would not have helped the situation.  Yours was measured and
mature.

Ty



On Jul 5, 4:32 pm, David Pollak <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Douglas Quaid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I heard some good vibes about Lift and then I saw this gem in the
> > "Getting Started" documentation for creating a project:
>
> >  From a command prompt, type:
>
> > mvn archetype:generate -U \
> > -DarchetypeGroupId=net.liftweb \
> > -DarchetypeArtifactId=lift-archetype-basic \
> > -DarchetypeVersion=1.0 \
> > -DremoteRepositories=http://scala-tools.org/repo-releases\
> > -DgroupId=com.liftworkshop \
> > -DartifactId=todo \
> > -Dversion=0.1-SNAPSHOT
>
> > Perhaps you guys could "innovate" and wrap this crap (rhyme!) in a
> > shell script.
>
> Howdy,
>
> I'll address your post in two parts.  First the form, and then the
> substance.
>
> This community is a welcoming (especially to newbies), kind, and generally
> cool place to hang out.  People in this community are here to help each
> other and to grow the knowledge, skills, and code around Lift.  We welcome
> feedback and comments and ways to improve Lift.  But we ask that people are
> polite and helpful.  Your email did not meet this standard.  So, in the
> future, please treat this community the way that you would like to be
> treated.  Approach this community the way you would like to be approached by
> a stranger.
>
> In terms of the substance of the issue, we've have a fair number of
> discussions about this over the years.  The first problem is a bootstrap
> problem.  Even if we have a shell script to wrap the maven command, how do
> we get it into users' hands?  The second problem is an OS support issue.
> Such a script is easy to write for Linux/Unix/OS X.  It's not so simple to
> make sure it works on Windows as a separate .bat file as well as a shell
> script that works under Cygwin.  We did do some testing of such a script as
> part of the installer and it always led to problems and we never found a
> person or collection of people who were willing to write, test and maintain
> such a script.  So, we decided that the cost of copy/paste of a copy of
> lines of Maven invocation was less of a priority than other Lift-related
> development.
>
> And as a practical matter, I probably create more Lift projects than anyone
> else.  It was only a few weeks ago that I made a script out of the above
> command rather than copy/pasting it.  I'm hardcore lazy and into making my
> life easier (I would be using other frameworks if it wasn't faster and
> easier for me to build a framework to do dynamic stuff rather than work
> around the suboptimal decisions made in other frameworks) and in the case of
> the Maven command to create a new Lift project, it just wasn't that hard.
>
> So, if you would like to write up some scripts and post them in a public
> place, that'd be great.  If you're the guy who is going to step up to the
> task of maintaining a complex cross-section of scripts, we'll link to your
> work and reference it in any way we can.
>
> Thanks,
>
> David
>
>
>
> > Good day!
>
> --
> Lift, the simply functional web frameworkhttp://liftweb.net
> Beginning Scalahttp://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890
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