Viktor,

Yep.

Best wishes,

--greg

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Viktor Klang <[email protected]>wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Meredith Gregory <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Viktor,
>>
>> Yes. For example, in the biotech case the data is coming in from a
>> device-based origin.
>
>
> This is interesting. Analyzing the AST of the query for the data, then
> identify the different data sources and then query each for all relevant
> data since last refresh, then push that into partitions and then schedule
> the Jobs and execute SQL and then merge/reduce the results.
>
>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> --greg
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 2:35 AM, Viktor Klang <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:52 PM, Meredith Gregory <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alex, Viktor,
>>>>
>>>> i think write semantics could get complicated quickly, actually.
>>>> However, i was initially responding to the idea that trad business object
>>>> models don't give way to analytics. Being able to make read-only queries
>>>> against large volumes of data using the original business object schema
>>>> seems to me like a win -- even if it's only used to populate a db that's
>>>> sliced up in a different way for further analytics processing.
>>>
>>>
>>> So basically, what's needed on top of HadoopDB is a service that updates
>>> data as needed from external data sources.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>
>>>> --greg
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Alex Cruise <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Viktor Klang wrote:
>>>>> > Absolutely, perhaps I'm tainted by write-heavy systems and perhaps
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> > just failing to see the overhead we're talking about.
>>>>> > Perhaps I overlooked it, but the paper didn't mention performance for
>>>>> > small writes and potentially multiple nodespanning transactions.
>>>>> HadoopDB makes no claim to any support for writes at all, I'm just
>>>>> speculating that It Should Be Possible given my understanding of its
>>>>> architecture, which is admittedly limited and based solely on reading
>>>>> the paper and a bit of the code. :)
>>>>> > I'm inclined to believe that some sort of immutable records storage
>>>>> > would simlify the semantics (analytic queries are IMHO very seldom
>>>>> > demanding real-time snapshots)
>>>>> Analytical queries against static data are exactly what it's for.  I
>>>>> have no experience with its competition, namely parallel/distributed
>>>>> column-oriented databases, so I can't say whether they're any happier
>>>>> with writes.
>>>>>
>>>>> FYI I brought up HadoopDB on the NoSQL list too but so far not too many
>>>>> takers...
>>>>>
>>>>> -0xe1a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> L.G. Meredith
>>>> Managing Partner
>>>> Biosimilarity LLC
>>>> 1219 NW 83rd St
>>>> Seattle, WA 98117
>>>>
>>>> +1 206.650.3740
>>>>
>>>> http://biosimilarity.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Viktor Klang
>>>
>>> Rogue Scala-head
>>>
>>> Twttr: viktorklang
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> L.G. Meredith
>> Managing Partner
>> Biosimilarity LLC
>> 1219 NW 83rd St
>> Seattle, WA 98117
>>
>> +1 206.650.3740
>>
>> http://biosimilarity.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Viktor Klang
>
> Rogue Scala-head
>
> Twttr: viktorklang
>
> >
>


-- 
L.G. Meredith
Managing Partner
Biosimilarity LLC
1219 NW 83rd St
Seattle, WA 98117

+1 206.650.3740

http://biosimilarity.blogspot.com

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