I think it worth to add this support even if servlet API is a little
weird sometimes but Lift HTTP API could provide a nicer support.
Furthermore such Lift API support would be handy for non JEE
containers therefore I'd vote for it.

Erkky would you please open a defect (https://www.assembla.com/spaces/
liftweb/tickets) and assign it to me ?

Br's,
Marius

On 8 feb., 21:08, David Pollak <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think this issue rests with Marius.  He's done most of the interface
> between Lift and the servlet containers.  Let's see what he has to say.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Erkki Lindpere <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Ok. The feature is not really that important for me, just something
> > that would be nice to have. I think some hack could be made with
> > sendError(int, String) and web.xml config, but that would be worse
> > than using the deprecated method.
>
> > Erkki L
>
> > On Feb 7, 11:20 pm, Timothy Perrett <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I agree Ross... I would be very reluctant to have Lift rely on some
> > deprecated method in the servlet spec - even if it is in servlet 3.0.
>
> > > Cheers, Tim
>
> > > On 7 Feb 2010, at 20:48, Ross Mellgren wrote:
>
> > > > Yeah you're very correct. It's unfortunate, but I think since it's
> > deprecated in the container we should probably not add support for it. I
> > can't believe they deprecated it for the reason they did, but there it is.
>
> > > > -Ross
>
> > > > On Feb 7, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Erkki Lindpere wrote:
>
> > > >> Actually, the reason phrase is not a normal HTTP header, but part of
> > > >> the status line:
> > > >>http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec6.html#sec6.1
>
> > > >> Status-Line = HTTP-Version SP Status-Code SP Reason-Phrase CRLF
>
> > > >> Examples:
> > > >> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
> > > >> HTTP/1.1 404 The user with id 8 does not exist
>
> > > >> The only way of setting this in Java Servlets as far as I know is
> > > >> through HttpServletResponse.setStatus(int, String), which
> > > >> unfortunately is deprecated. A non-deprecated possibility is
> > > >> sendError(int, String), but that goes to the container's default error
> > > >> page (or the one defined in web.xml, I think) so it's not exactly what
> > > >> I would like.
>
> > > >> Also, I checked that FireBug actually does display the custom reason
> > > >> phrase, but Chrome displays the standard one instead.
>
> > > >> Erkki L
>
> > > >> On Feb 7, 1:08 pm, Timothy Perrett <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>> If you want to alter the Reason-Phrase, you can already do that -
> > objects like NotFoundResponse are just helpers on InMemoryResponse...
> > nothing stopping you adding your own helpers that set headers with
> > customised reason codes; this should give you what you what. I haven't
> > managed to find an RFC that lists reason-phrase as anything but a particular
> > header in the HTTP response.
>
> > > >>> Moreover, its not the wrong thing to return a plain text response if
> > the request mime was text/plain... indeed, it would be even less helpful if
> > it returned JSON or such. IMHO, the response type should match what was
> > asked for by the caller - i.e. its an implementation issue not a framework
> > level issue.
>
> > > >>> Tim
>
> > > >>> On 6 Feb 2010, at 21:55, Erkki Lindpere wrote:
>
> > > >>>> The NotFoundResponse (and others) puts the custom message into the
> > > >>>> request body. That works as well, but to be really lean (mainly for
> > > >>>> bragging rights :)) I'd like to remove any unnecessary elements from
> > > >>>> the rest api. Most of the error messages are going to be simple one-
> > > >>>> line messages (and short sentences). For some errors I might provide
> > a
> > > >>>> detailed response and it could go into the body, as XML/JSON/...
> > > >>>> That's inconsistent if the other errors have a plain text message in
> > > >>>> the body.
> > > >>>> So I could either go with structured details for all messages or in
> > > >>>> simple cases use the HTTP headers or status line. A custom header
> > > >>>> would work, but the status line is standard and also more easily
> > > >>>> accessed with some client libraries.
>
> > > >>>> And last but perhaps not least, for debugging purposes, the HTTP
> > > >>>> Reason Code should show up better in web developer tools (for
> > example
> > > >>>> FireBug, Chrome's tools). My web UI also goes through the REST API
> > so
> > > >>>> it would be nice to read error messages right in the listing in
> > > >>>> firebug's net panel.
>
> > > >>>> So I'm suggesting that perhaps Lift would like to provide only the
> > > >>>> possibility of changing that value in user code. But I completely
> > > >>>> understand if it doesn't. Currently it doesn't seem to be supported
> > in
> > > >>>> Lift's http.provider package and even in javax.servlet the
> > > >>>> setStatus(int, String) method is deprecated (I'm not sure if
> > > >>>> sendError(int, String) uses the reason phrase).
>
> > > >>>> Erkki L
>
> > > >>>> On Feb 6, 9:59 pm, Ross Mellgren <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>>>> I think it would be fine to have different text there, probably
> > better than having the standard text if you have refined detail. I don't
> > think it'd be a good idea to conditionalize on the response text in client
> > code - that's always fragile. If you want to give additional
> > machine-readable detail, I'd put it in a response header or in the body as a
> > JSON or XML field or what have you.
>
> > > >>>>> You can specify custom text there, but you may have to sidestep the
> > usual response classes, depending on which one. The one you gave, not found,
> > can have the message customized though, just do new NotFoundResponse("the
> > message").
>
> > > >>>>> -Ross
>
> > > >>>>> On Feb 6, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Erkki Lindpere wrote:
>
> > > >>>>>> It seems Lift does not support custom HTTP Reason Phrases in
> > > >>>>>> responses. I would like to send error messages in the Reason
> > Phrase
> > > >>>>>> (along with a vaguely applicable HTTP status code) in a RESTful
> > API
> > > >>>>>> I'm providing. My understanding of the HTTP spec is that the
> > reason
> > > >>>>>> phrase is meant to be human readable and does not have to contain
> > the
> > > >>>>>> recommended messages (i.e. "Not Found").
>
> > > >>>>>> But maybe it would not be wise to do this? I'm not actually aware
> > of
> > > >>>>>> any API-s that send error messages in the Reason Phrase.
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