I don't understand why people are being so aggressive on this list, i'm just looking to understand how Lift works and i think it's normal to have questions that many people here maybe will find that don't really make sense. Still, i think i've been able to structure my questions fairly well and i've been getting a really nor friendly replies. Yes i've insisted on the questions more than once, but that's because i found that none of the answers were explanatory.
IMHO you guys should really appreciate more the questions and opinions from newcomers because sometimes they can provide a fresh look on things, even thought sometimes them may seem "stupid". Anyway, i'll drop this subject and i'm sorry if i was too pushy on this thread. My intentions were the best. Thanks. On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 17:08, David Pollak <feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Adam Warski <a...@warski.org> wrote: > >> > >> > All i would like is some clarification if this statement is in fact >> true, if not i will go on with my project happily using reflection snippets. >> If it is true i then would be looking for a better alternative. >> > >> > It is much better practice in my opinion to use an explicit dispatch. >> But you do whatever you want. If it becomes a performance problem for you >> and you're on a production site, then we'll look at it. >> > >> > More broadly, we like to help newbies and folks with live production >> sites. But, we also expect that newbies will bring us real issues that they >> themselves are facing, not premature optimizations. We have limited time to >> help people and wasting (and this thread has crossed seriously into >> time-wasting land) time with stuff that doesn't really impact you means that >> (1) you will get a lot less attention in the future (think the boy who cried >> wolf) and (2) it lowers the quality of discussion for the rest of the folks >> on the list. >> >> I really don't get your response, as Hugo just asked about a statement on >> the wikipage, which very clearly says that using reflection snippets brings >> a performance hit and is discouraged to be used in production. Now, it may >> very well be that this statement shouldn't be there as it's not true - which >> is your opinion I think. >> > > My "opinion" is that using dispatch snippets is the best practice because > it's clearer to other team members what's going on. > > >> >> Maybe it would be better to write something like: >> "If you are experiencing performance problems because of too many >> reflection calls, the cause may be using reflection snippets. Consider using >> dispatch snippets". >> > > I did not write the wiki entry. I rarely post to the wiki. You can write > whatever you want. > > >> >> But why do you say to new users who just ask about statements from the >> wiki that their posts are time-wasting and that they can get less attention >> in the future I really don't understand. >> > > Please read the entire thread and the other threads that Hugo has started. > Hugo is pushing on this issue (without any real basis, measurement, > problems, statistics) and not letting it go. I've answered his question a > number of times (using dispatch snippets is best practices [more from a code > readability standpoint, but also there is a minor performance penalty]) and > he keeps harping on the issue. > > If you repeat the same question over and over *after Tim and I have > answered it* it is a waste of time. > > David > > >> >> Peace :) >> >> -- >> Adam Warski >> http://www.warski.org >> http://www.softwaremill.eu >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lift" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lift...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<liftweb%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > Lift, the simply functional web framework http://liftweb.net > Beginning Scala http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890 > Follow me: http://twitter.com/dpp > Surf the harmonics > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lift" group. > To post to this group, send email to lift...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<liftweb%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lift" group. To post to this group, send email to lift...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en.
